Trump is the Perfect Sore Loser

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Bill Huffman, Nov 7, 2020.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It is a fact that people are complaining about irregularities in NV, GA, PA, AZ and other states.
    Democrats what to sweep this under the rug.
    The issue is not Trump vs Biden.
    These who want to ignore the complains of fraud and irregularities ( Same people who cried Russians stole elections in 2016) and these who want to check if these complains are significant and truthful.
    As I said before, I prefer that there is no fraud and regularities. Nevada ignored to manually check more then 200,000 ballots.
    They suppose to have th machines at 200 DPI resolution do initial recording but manually check and guess what they didn't follow their own law. And this is just a beginning. We don't know if these 200,000 ballots are majority for Trump or Biden BTW.
    Some must have selective reading :).
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    How odd that Democrats supposedly tampered with elections in so many different places, and yet they lost seats in the House. Considering how often they're accused of rigging elections by sore loser Republicans, you'd think they'd be better at it.
     
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  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    The ongoing denial of Trump's loss stems from Trump being seen and embraced by tens of millions of Americans as a messiah. He’s a false messiah, to be sure, but followers of false messiahs do not often surrender their faith. Usually they have to die out. I'm not sure whether Trump himself believes in his messiah-hood or if he is merely a cynical manipulator of the credulous. Probably the latter as the Trump University fraud will attest.
     
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  4. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    This!! Also, for the Republicans like Moscow Mitch, who won, they don't believe that this unsubstantiated fraud played a role in their victory. Talk about the double standard.
     
  5. copper

    copper Active Member

    I agree that potential fraud and irregularities should be addressed through the legal system/process. Will it change the outcome? Probably not, but it does give a lot of hungry lawyers gainful employment. :emoji_flag_um: USA! USA! USA!
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Like those millennialist cults where they sell everything and give the proceeds to the cult in preparation for doomsday... which then, of course, doesn't happen.

    Conversely, however, I'm also seeing a lot of hagiographic descriptions of Biden and Harris that neither deserve.
     
  7. copper

    copper Active Member

    I just purchased a red colored MAGA hat and put it in my curio cabinet. I think it will be valuable one day. :emoji_fingers_crossed:
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think it will be ugly, pretty well immediately.
     
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  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    But they still got the majority in the house. Smaller yet majority.
    As to presidential elections, if its clean then as I mentioned the victory will have even more legitimacy among the republican voters.
    This will be good for America. Country will move further.
     
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  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  11. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Not sure that anyone disagrees that he'll go down as a legend! Whether there is a positive or negative connection, may be slightly subjective :D
     
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The question is will Trump pardon himself? This would likely be ruled a conflict of interest by the supreme court (if it even got that far) at least that's what the lawyers seem to agree would be the likely outcome. Will he just move out of the country instead? This would have the added advantage of avoiding potential state charges for things like tax fraud. Will he try to talk Pence into pardoning him if he resigned before 1/20/2021 and if so would Pence agree? Finally if any of these things occurred would Lerner then argue that the left media mob was wrongly trying to cast the actions as nefarious? One thing we do know is that it would be a legendary ending to a legendary presidency. ;)
     
  13. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    While the speculation of how Trump exits is fascinating, as we know it will be unprecedented or "legendary", regardless of how it occurs...

    My real concern though... is how our security apparatus proceeds going forward. With former President's continuing to have daily security briefings for life...
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I know they have secret service protection for life. I didn't know they had security briefings. What are those for?
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't doubt Oleg Deripaska's people are already hard at work, decorating luxury digs for Trump right now in Moscow's Arbat district, or perhaps a classy residence in either "Rublevka" or Ostozhenka at $40K a square meter. Some place where Trump's friend, Vladimir Putin can keep a close eye on him. He needs watching, wherever.
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    "Hello, Oleg? The technicians are here to install the bug- er, the microphones. Will 22 be enough or will we need more?"
     
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  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I've posted this before, but I now have this square on my office pool. He'll resign the office at 3am on December 15th, leaving a hand-scrawled note (with a Sharpie, of course) on the Resolute Desk. He'll then catch a ride to the Manassas Airport where a Gulfstream G650 will be waiting for him and his party to whisk them off to Riyadh. (The US has no extradition treaty with Saudi Arabia, and the prince will do it as a favor for the cover Trump gave him as an accomplice to murder.) The G650 sleeps 8 and has a range of 7,000 NM, sufficient to get them to Riyadh without stopping to refuel. "Them"? Trump, Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr., Kimberly, Eric, and Lara. But that's only 7? Yes, because Trump will take two berths.

    The Third Lady--with a settlement already in hand--will return to New York with the kid no one talks about. Tiffany will remain in Washington where she'll routinely fail the bar exam.

    On his way out, Trump will pardon Manafort, Stone, Flynn, his kids, Jared, Kalimnik, Rudy, and himself. Sorry Mike, George, and Rick!
     
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  18. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    It allows former President's to be able to serve as an unofficial advisor to the current POTUS on critical matters in times of crisis. There's a long precedent behind it, and certainly makes sense to me. As regardless of one's experience or accomplishments; it's unlikely any other person has had that scope of responsibility and experienced a similar level of volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity (VUCA) with their decision making process.
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes. It's too keep them up-to-date as they often advise the current president informally. The amounts and frequency of these briefings can vary.
     
  20. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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