Trump is the Perfect Sore Loser

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I know, Donald Trump hasn't lost yet. So how can I know that he's such an excellent sore loser. There's a few reasons.

    1. In 2016 he was a sore winner. He claimed that he was cheated and millions of illegal votes were cast for Clinton.

    2. He tried to to get Hillary Clinton thrown in jail just because he won and she lost and during his whole campaign he was calling her a crook and saying "Lock her up".

    3. Trump is a narcist that cares about no one except himself.

    4. A favorite activity for Trump is expressing grievances. He's always being picked on and treated unfairly. He has been complaining about being cheated in this election for months, even before the voting began he was complaining about being cheated by mail in voting.

    5. He hasn't lost the 2020 election yet but he is already a sore loser. Filing frivolous lawsuits right and left. Continuing his complaining about mail in voting. Complaining about the vote taking too long. Complaining about the Democrats cheating him (with zero evidence). Increasing his volume of lies to unprecedented levels.

    I could go on but here's my point. Assuming that he loses this election, for the good of the country we need to keep Donald Trump in reserve just in case there is a national emergency where we really need a sore loser. He is the best sore loser in the whole world!
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    President Trump has his flaws.

    But almost 70 million Americans think differently.
    This is just to coincidental. Dem's plan to steal it all.
    It appears there have been such poor attempts to keep track of ballots, SCOTUS may have to dictate to the states what they need to do.
    Again the arsonist theory.
    Until SCOTUS tells then to stop.
    May the LORD frustrate and thwart the plans of those who attempt to sabotage the states election laws and subvert the expressed will of people.

    Translated from Russian, the statements that were pronounced by Lenin and Stalin according to Bazhanov is the following:

    I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how".

    This quote has been modified and used for general elections removing the words party, its been circulation on the internet..
     
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  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Biden is ahead 4 million votes in the popular vote and right now is leading in the battle ground states by more than what Trump won the Battle ground states by in 2016. Trump was separated from defeat by only 78,000 votes in 2016. The will of the people is clear, 4 million more votes for Biden which is the GREATEST number of total votes for a President of the USA in our history! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/biden-receives-most-votes-history-beating-barack-obamas-record/6164685002/

    There is less evidence of Democrat sabotage in 2020 than there was of Republican sabotage of the 2016 election, but hypocrisy is the standard for the 2020 Republican.
     
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  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I thought there was Russian sabotage, isn't this the Dem's mantra for 3 years? Come one Dem's were sore losers and still are for the 2016 elections.
    One sidedly Impeached the President over a phone call!
    I say lets finish the count and final call be made, if there is a basis to allegations, and laws are broken etc, let the competent professionals figure this out.
    In 2000 we waited for the court to decide the Florida elections.
    As Rich said here may not need to wait as Biden leads in multiple battleground states.
    I think president Trump has right to question things and not only him.
    If there is an allegation that some 120,000 ballots all for Biden suddenly showed up, lets see the evidence.
    If there is a USPS snowblower testifies that he was instructed to back date Post marks on ballots , shouldn't this be investigated?
    What good are observers if they are 25 ft away while the regulations is 6ft ?
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.postaltimes.com/postalnews/usps-inspector-general-looking-into-project-veritas-video-on-michigan-late-ballots/

    The Washington Examiner confirmed the USPS’s Office of Inspector General is investigating the video. “We have learned of this matter and are looking into it,” USPS’s Office of the Inspector General’s spokesperson Agapi Doulaveris told the Washington Examiner. “No additional information available at this time.”

    USPS spokeswoman Martha Johnson also told the Washington Examiner the Postal Service was aware of the video and was “referred to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.”
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    HAHAHAHA It will be interesting is true. Keep this in mind though. This criminal looked familiar to me and checking yes.

    "O’Keefe gained national attention for his selectively edited video recordings of workers at Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) offices in 2009, his arrest and guilty plea in 2010 for entering the federal office of then-U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) under false pretenses, and the release of misleading videos of conversations with two high-ranking, now former, NPR executives in 2011."

    See more shady nonsense

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe
     
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  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There may be a valid explanation for it, so we’ll see where it goes.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes. This is unfortunate.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This response seems like a non-sequitur? So, just to be clear, the video you posted a link to was produced by James O'Keefe. He is most definitely not a respected journalist but a fraud that has a history of twisting the stories that he works on to the point of misleading untruths and lies. He has pleaded guilty in the past to crimes committed while producing his nonsense. I'm sure it will be investigated. I suspect that it is more likely that James O'keefe himself will end up in jail than anyone at the post office or anyone counting votes. I would put this in the category of the kind of stuff that I'd expect to see on social media. It is much better to stick with respected media outlets like Fox News, than surfing social media for your news.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Actually the first time I saw the video it was on Fox news. I was trying to find it and found this link
    so I posted it. I think that FOX is above some social media. If this is fake then the USPS investigators will respond accordingly.

    Be it isolated incident, or a major trend is yet to be seen. Computer glitches in multiple states with ballots containing wrong names, or mailed to wrong addresses.
    The perception will almost certainly be that the 2020 election is tainted. Losing candidates across the country – Republicans and Democrats will blame mail-in voting and fraud for their losses.

    Republicans point out that in northern Antrim County, thousands of votes were counted in error for Biden, and for Democratic Sen. Gary Peters instead of GOP candidate John James.
    Michigan GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox said at a Friday press conference that “in Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates. The county clerk came forward and said, ‘tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes.'”
    Cox said that “since then, we have now discovered that 47 counties used this same software in the same capacity,” or more than half of Michigan’s 83 counties. She urged those counties to “closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.” Trump’s campaign circulated her remarks on Twitter.

    PA ruling on extending the deadline -
    Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, in a statement last week backed the Supreme Court's refusal to take up the case, saying there was not enough time to issue a ruling before the election. But they left the door open to decide the case post-election and said it is "likely" the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling is unconstitutional.
    Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has issued a temporary order requiring Pennsylvania elections officials to segregate ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day.
    There is a petition on the merits of the case still pending before the Supreme Court -- which could potentially step in to overturn the Pennsylvania Supreme Court and void votes after they have been cast in a state that has the potential to decide the presidential election.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Rush :
    The evidence is being gathered for litigation. That’s what’s going on. The Trump team is doing everything it can to gather the evidence.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Just stop. Not only is there no evidence for this, there's strong evidence for the opposite, in that many of the results in House and Senate elections favor Republicans, to an unexpected extent.

    And there's one, and only one, reasonable explanation for that discrepancy: a lot of people in the middle who are willing to vote for Republicans in general rejected Donald J. Trump specifically.
     
  13. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  14. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I would consider Fox News above all social media. Did Fox News mention James O'Keefe's past escapades when they presented the piece?

    The chance of Trump's litigation having any impact on the outcome of the election was explained this way by the lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania. It's like having a carton of soar milk in the refrigerator and checking it periodically to see if it has turned sweet yet.
     
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Don't really care how sore a loser he is. As long as he (eventually) gets the job done - LOSES! That'll be a huge relief - even if he still won't admit it. Likely never will - not even a deathbed confession. Not his style.
     
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  17. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Active Member

    Seems he is definetly the loser. At least, according to CNN, Associated Press, all EU mainstream media, ...
     
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  18. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Active Member

    Hello!

    Reminds me of an old joke of the Cold War. It went something like this: One Athlete from each the US and the USSR had a competition, the guy from the US won. In the Pravda, one cold read that the guy from the USSR had a honorable second place, while the US was only next to last.

    Would not be surprised if Trump would claim something like that.

    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
     
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Your mention of Pravda reminds me of another Cold War joke, back in my school days: Soviet Russia had two primary news sources: Pravda, "Truth" and Izvestia, "Information." Folks on both sides said that in Izvestia there was no truth, and in Pravda, no information.

    Election coverage has indicated similar shortcomings in news sources here. :(
     
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    GregWatts Active Member

     

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