Sheila Danzig now a foreign credential evaluator?!

I just done evaluation in there. not good and bad services. never trust them again!
Not I understood what chip said!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

??? What ???

 

Holy Threadbump, Batman! NMTTD, did you realize the post to which you are replying is 18 months old?

 

Yep. I know. lol

 

Sheila has still apparently escaped arrest. Good for her! When I went to enter her website McAfee on my computer was somehow smart enough to warn me that the site might not be safe. I'll post the link anyway in case anyone else feels like taking a chance, Sheila Danzig, author, speaker, consultant, reporter . That way her website will get a bump from google. She apparently no longer has up her amusing dance animation. :-( I didn't delve too deeply in her site because of the warning from McAfee and I don't want a virus or anything.

 

I'm not scared to enter Sheila's website -- because it's NOT MY COMPUTER! I was on her site a few weeks ago - and downloaded two free books. One was on (totally) legit ways of obtaining credit towards degrees - strictly those of accredited schools. All legit sources, much on Big 3, earning portfolio credit etc. The other was on free learning sites - open courseware etc. Total of about 550 pages, PDF files.

I know some people hate her re: MIGS, shaky evaluation shenanigans etc. - but my experience was 100% positive - and free. I even enjoyed reading her comments on her own Robert de Sorbon "Doctorate." Fun stuff - not that I'd sign up for one!

BTW - McAfee was installed a while ago and for some weeks kept me out of 100% legit sites - Sourceforge, Freewarehome etc. - but McAfee apparently responded to complaints from some of the companies it "kept out" and that all changed. Bill - My advice: if you're doing anything really shady on the Internet, do it via a Russian site, if possible. Umm...from what I hear, McAfee doesn't seem to object. Maybe it can't read Russian? Also, McAfee did not give me any warnings on Sheila's site today. Hmmmm....

Johann

 

I should add - Sheila comes across as a very dynamic and personable lady. And unlike Donald Trump, from whose site I got many many follow-up e-mails, she hasn't tried to sell me a thing since giving me the free books!

And she wasn't afraid to say that her RDS degree isn't for everybody --and why. No attempt to persuade me at all...

Johann

PS - Despite whatever I said about Donald Trump's site - HIS free book was darn good. I got a lot out of it! He is a smart man and the Internet is indeed a wonderful place...

 

The MIGS scam alone cost many people a lot of wasted time and money.....not a fan of her at all.

 

I don't think so. MIGS "enrolled" few if any students. It collapsed very quickly after (a) it stupidly and ineptly sued Steve, (b) I reported it to Florida authorities after determining it wasn't moving ahead with licensure in that state, and (3) the president of MIGS (who was also a high official at CSU Monterey Bay) got very cold feet.

 

It was only their own incompetence that stopped them from fleecing people, and didn't they waste a lot of your time?

 

Absolutely not.

I recommend people stick to assertions of fact, not ungrounded assessments.

 

That was a question, not an assessment. And even if you took the time to fill out an application to MIGS, it is my *OPINION* that you wasted your time, since it became one huge embarrassment for everyone involved.

 

In support of Bruce's position I offer the following historical thread as an "assertion of fact."

http://www.degreeinfo.com/monterrey-institute-graduate-studies/7014-what-i-thought.html?daysprune=-1

Beyond that I'd only point out that simply because all these years later you're still talking about it, MIGS has indeed wasted your time.

 

Awww. I tried to look at that thread and I cant. "NMTTD, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page." Booo!!! lol

 

Here are the first 2 posts in the thread"


12-29-2002 08:13 PM #1
Rich Douglas
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 8,359


What I Thought

I took a lot of grief--much of it deserved, BTW--regarding MIGS. It galls me when some people, working a different agenda, choose to misinterpret what I did or did not do, or how objective I was regarding MIGS. I've maintained that while I was an advocate for the idea, I was also a critic of its implementation. Well, just for the record, here's what I wrote a colleage right after I dropped any association with MIGS (this was written in June 2001):

I spoke with The Florida State Board of Independent Colleges and Universities on 6/11/01 regarding MIGS' legal status in that state. Here is a recap of that conversation, along with my observations and opinions.

The Florida State Board of Independent Colleges and Universities received application from Serna on 5/29/01, too late to be considered by the board's 6/9/01 meeting. They wrote Enrique Serna back, citing these problems:

1. School uses "accredited" (and worse, "fully accredited") on their website.
a. No evidence that MIGS or CEU has gone through such process as it is understood in the U.S.
b. Inappropriate term considering CEU is a Mexican school.
c. Other information on the site makes it clear that the CEU is fully approved but not "accredited" (a la GAAP).

2. MIGS must remove their Florida contact information until after they're given permission to operate in Florida.

3. MIGS must submit evidence that the academic process used is sufficient for schools licensed in Florida. This is so even though they won't actually go through licensure itself. Schools from other jurisdictions wishing to operate administrative offices in Florida have to demonstrate that they operate at a level and with processes that would allow them to be licensed in Florida if they were based in that state.

Opinions/Observations/Judgments:

1. MIGS does not have the legal right to operate its office in Fort Lauderdale. They do not have the right to take in students and monies, nor conduct academic operations until the state gives them permission to do so.

2. MIGS has been incredibly slow on the uptake regarding this matter. They're application didn't go in until at least 15 months after they developed a public presence and began promoting themselves. (And not until this lapse was pointed out to them.) Probably due to simple incompetence, rather than some form of deception.

3. Given all the questions regarding the proper approval of the CEU to award these degrees (either via MIGS or not), the school has a responsibility to demonstrate this approval. Officials from the CEU and MIGS have said so, but where is the Secretary of Education in all this? He appears as an honorary member of the MIGS Board, but so what?

4. Given the remarkably different degree-granting process in Mexico as compared to the U.S., MIGS has been less than clear about that process. The only comments about it are buried in the Vice-Rector's letter. Exactly what credentials will be issued upon graduation. What will they say? From whom will they come?

5. MIGS has not even attempted to address utility and equivalency issues. For example, will even a properly-issued CEU doctorate be evaluated as comparable to one issued by an accredited school in the U.S.?

6. Finally, consider all these controversies:

a. The Danzigs' other marketing activities.

b. Not properly licensed in Florida.

c. The Levicoff lawsuit.

d. The opaqueness of the degree-granting authority (and its meaning in terms of equivalency).

e. The non-involvement of the CEU in MIGS. (I couldn't even get one of their professors assigned to my committee, even though he is also listed on the MIGS Faculty!) MIGS operates as if the CEU didn't even exist, except on paper.

f. Academic questions (primarily the Assessment of Prior Learning process and its use at the master's--and even doctoral--level.

g. The over-hype that made it sound like MIGS was awarding fully accredited degrees instead of the CEU awarding degrees it is approved to award--not a subtle difference--and the subsequent backtracking to a tenable position.

h. The lack of activity in its operations .

i. The lack of staff. (Likely zero full-time employees, and only three at all active in its administration.)

For a very long time I stuck up for this operation because of what it said it was doing. But now it simply says nothing, and does even less. I'm dropping the matter right now.






12-29-2002 09:14 PM #2
SteveLevicoff Guest

Talk About Beating a Dead Horse...


Gee, and I thought MIGS was a dead issue . . .

I see no reason for Rich to do any mea culpa at this point. Nonetheless, what he has posted here is not a mea culpa, but an apologia of his own prior reprehensible conduct during the MIGS affair. To wit:

- He identified himself on numerous occasions as MIGS' "Research Assistant," not bothering on most occasions to note that this was an unpaid role.

- He identified himself as a "Ph.D. Candidate" at MIGS - not only before reaching the usual candidacy stage for a doctoral program but before he was even admitted to MIGS.

- For that matter, he identified himself as a "Ph.D. Candidate" at Union immediately upon returning to Union's fold.

- And most of all, he hyped MIGS to the fullest. Forget matchbook covers, or even the imbedded ads on Sheila's numerous hokey web sites. Rich was the best sales rep that MIGS could ever have asked for.

His actions, on the whole, had no more apparent motivation than to make credible the degree that he was purportedly pursuing through MIGS.

So forgive me if I wonder why he is bringing up this rather overworked issue now. Not that I mind; hell, I consider the death of MIGS one of my greatest victories, and I didn't even have to work for it actively. (It was their unsuccessful lawsuit against me that directly resulted in the wonderful actions of the Great State of Texas - and Florida, for that matter. As Gershwin wrote, "Who could ask for anythng more?")

So let it slide, Rich. You may, one day, have a credible reputation as well as a credible doctorate. But even the most dedicated activists have to know when to give it a rest.

 

Ahhhh. Ok, so I can see the point Kizmet was making. Wish I could read the whole thread.

 

Considering that I'm not "talking" about it but responding instead, and considering that I'm a better judge of what is and is not a waste of my time that you are, and considering you're also posting about the same subject, and considering that the link doesn't even work (nice job, "Moderator"), the only waste of time is the use of your keyboard.

That's just my opinion. You know, something "I'd only point out."

 

Oh boy. opcorn:

 

The MIGS threads are in a sub-forum that only the Mods can see. There has been some discussion in the Mod Area about moving the MIGS threads into the General Discussions for all to see.

 

Im sure I dont get a vote, but if I did, I'd vote LET THE PEOPLE SEE EM!!! lol Just sayin....