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In some ways I can't believe I read all of this thread so far but I must admit I am interested in the ways that men think. I was once married to a "pig." I did not like being married to a pig and his actions and lack of self-restraint eventually led to our divorce, which to to this day about 15 years later, I believe he'd take me back in an instant even though we've both remarried. My husband of ten years now has a lot of faults but he is not a pig even though in some ways I would have to admit he has some stereotypical male traits. But I love him very much and he doesn't chase women or go to strip bars. He rarely goes to bars at all. He is too busy working and playing with his toys...motorcycles, boats, cars, tractors, etc.
I started a job as a truck stop waitress after splitting up with my ex-husband. I don't really want to mention my looks or at least I ask you men "not to go there" but at that time, I was likely considered a good looking waitress. I did get a few inappropriate comments but very few. I don't recall anyone ever pinching my butt, and these were truck drivers! There was a guy that I worked with who was notorious for sexually harrassing the co-working females, yet in the year I worked with him he never once said anything to me other than that I was pretty. We talked about books we read, for heaven sakes! And music and stuff like that! Underneath his exterior, I believe an intelligent man existed and I considered him to be my friend. Yet he used vile language with the other ladies there and I witnessed it so I know they were not making it up. Why is this? Because most men I have encountered realize that I don't think it is funny. I don't usually react much at all and they are somehow not encouraged to continue with it. At the same time I don't make waves about what others do and I don't go yelling "sexual harrassment." In most cases of sexual harassment, I actually believe women encourage it up to a point and then they get angry when the point is crossed or when it is a convenient way to get back at a man for something probably not related to the supposed harassment.
I believe we are in a post-feminist age. I think women themselves ask to be degraded by getting boob-jobs. Yes, I call it that because unless a woman has had breast cancer or is so flat that she truly is mistaken for a man, I can not understand getting one except for asking to objectified and harassed and not respected...by "pigs" which we have established, are indeed "out there." I have a brother who blindly worshipped a mindless bimbo for the 20 years they were married. He thought she was intelligent and beautiful even though others thought she was mediocre to look at and very, very stupid. He almost killed himself (really) when she dumped him. He had never been with another woman in his life and he refused to believe the evidence that existed to show his wife had been unfaithful throughout their marriage. Well, my brother is a farmer. Not very exciting to a party-girl alcoholic, I'm sure. Anyway, with her first chunk of her "settlement" she promptly got a much needed (not) boob-job. She worked as a waitress and I don't exactly live in a Hollywood type of area...this is still not common here! So as can be expected, people gosipped about her at her job. She actually asked someone else there to ask people to stop talking about her because this was "Something she'd been wanting for a very long time." She was no doubt at least a b-cup before her "operation." When married, she could have done whatever she wanted including getting a boob job, because my brother was that naive, whatever she wanted, she could have. But he certainly loved her the way she was since he thought everything about her was perfect (including the original boobs, I'm sure). He just worked like a sap for 20 years and gave her every cent and never asked questions.
And another brother married that lady's sister! His marriage was even worse. Ted, was your wife of half a year named Helen? Sounds like the same woman...

 

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Those of you who have been on other distance learning discussion lists will notice the name of the lady to whom I was married from June 3, 2003 to January 24, 2004: Rose Bear.

 

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Of course, I also think it's perfectly legitimate for a woman to get breast REDUCTION surgery, if she's tired of all the pigs.

 

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One of my wife's friends had reduction surgery, because she was having serious back problems in her early 30's.

 

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Indeed.

 

Hey Suelaine: I always said those Marygrove women were smart.

 

Frankly, the ones I've known needed sex.... lots and lots of sex. Whether that calls for either a plastic surgeon or psychologist is not something I've been terribly concerned with!

 

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No but my wife of half a year and a former girlfriend of two years were certainly she-devils like Helen of Troy! Beautiful too!

 

And what line of work are you in, Mr. Reginstein?

 

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And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen: If the woman wants men to stop behaving inappropriately, then she's the one who should change.

The prosecution rests.

(Heck... I'm winning without even having to say anything. If I just sit back and keep letting these guys act a fool, sooner or later they'll make my points for me. What a country.)

 

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Another misrepresentation by the usually quite loquacious DesElms! I never said a woman SHOULD HAVE TO get reduction surgery in order to deal with the pigs; merely that I would think that some MIGHT WANT TO in order to deal with the pigs.

 

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You and Ken Starr would make good bedfellows.

 

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Ha! Ha! Ha! I'm not even going to touch this one with a ten-foot pole ... er, or a two-inch pole, for that matter.

 

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Or a curlicue.

 

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What's that?

 

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Kinda like a curly fry.

 

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DesElms: You remind me of a lot of the sanctimonious old geezers I've known in my lifetime. More often than not, when a guy hits a certain age, he suddenly begins engaging in psychological self-flagellation for his own actions committed when he himself was young and foolish. Then, in an act of psychological transference, he proceeds to extend that self-flagellation to his sons (or, indeed, any men younger than he, who will do as sons in the Freudian framework). Naturally, the newly-sanctimonious old geezer simply assumes that any man younger than he must be engaging in the same sick, twisted activities that he himself used to engage in during his own salad days. I have had older guys tell me that their own youthful cheap male gutter-slut activities were acceptable because "hey, it was the Sixties/Seventies!" Or because, "That was before the days of AIDS!" But go on, keep telling me what an arrogant male chauvanist pig I am when you have so far come up with zero evidence that I am a cheap male gutter-slut! And will come up with none! Because I am not! This is why you would be a perfect new partner in the prestigious Washington, DC, law firm of Starr, Meese, & DesElms!

 

As that old Grateful Dead song once said (I believe it was New Minglewood Blues).... "and my number one occupation.... is stealin' women from their men!"

 

I kind of wondered whether you had taken up a career as a gigolo. Which is okay, of course. After all, entrepreneurship is all about finding a need and filling it.