Wiki self promotion? Is Concord Law the only school with the Executive JD?

And no mention of his undergraduate degree or MBA.

 

Can we ask how many times you've failed the bar?

 

The attacks from those that dont have either a bar qualifying J.D. degree or an ABA LL.M degree are amusing.

Attacking me for what? for having 2 law degrees, when neither one of you have these degrees!

This isnt an intelligent discussion about law schools in California, its just an attack against me by persons without the law degree credentials that I have.

 

I'm not attacking anybody, but it's predictable that you would feel like I was. I don't have a law degree, but I don't need one to manage a medical practice, which is what I do. I think it's great that you have an NWCU degree, since I am looking to do the same once I complete my MBA. I'm looking at their BSL or LLM program. Both are a steal and, while neither will qualify me for the bar, I live in Connecticut so no CalBar program would qualify me to practice law here anyway. Once I get a non-bar qualifying law degree, I'll be sure to send you an email so that you can congratulate me. Should be around 2009.

 

Ya, you're being attacked for having law degrees. (Just like L.F. and Nosborne are attacked for having them).

 

If you start slinging handfuls of rocks, it just isn't becoming to whine when a few whiz back in your direction.

And what of your MBA?

 

I wouldnt recommend the NWCU B.S.L or LL.M degree since
they are useless in nature.

You would be better off taking the Bar Qualifying J.D. degree from NWCU and taking and passing the California Bar.

Once admitted you can practice law in Connetticut but only in FEDERAL COURT, however, while you are practicing Federal Law you can go to St. Thomas University and complete the LL.M program.

If you are admitted to California and then get ABA LL.M you will qualify for the Connetticut Bar Exam.

Otherwise I can think of no reason to get B.S.L. or LL.M degree at NWCU since it will have no utility at all.

 

Actually, I'd recommend the Connecticut DL LLM program. Even in real estate law, it'd have more utility that an LLM from the state of Florida in Taxation.

And, by the way, it may be pronounced "Connetticut", but it's spelled "Connecticut". And as you did it twice, I know it's not a typo.

 

Mind you, RobbCD, I'm not attacking the non-Bar JD. I'm just saying that if I were to consider law school someday, I would go for the Bar-qualifying JD rather than the non-Bar JD simply because it would allow me the possibility of taking the Bar some day even if not taken immediately out of law school or re-taking the Bar even if I failed on the first try. Now, the non-Bar JD does come in useful is in situations where knowledge of the law is useful but the degree holder has no intention of practicing law, for example, a small business owner who needs to know how the law effects his business (e.g., business law, tax law, labor law, etc.). But therein lies the rub: in choosing a particular degree program, one needs to make sure that it will fulfill one's present and future needs. It is those future needs that are harder to predict. So, hypothetically, if one was to go for a non-Bar JD, it might behoove one to find out if that particular law school allows its non-Bar JD alums to come back and earn the Bar-qualifying JD for just the difference in hours between the Bar-qualifying JD and the non-Bar JD, just in case one's future needs change.

 

JDLLM2,

Why should we believe you now. I went back and checked your comments from before. Please note the following:

JDLLM2
Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 71
" I simply want to close down alot of bad law schools
Dude,

This is causal writing, how dare you criticize someone with an accredited J.D. and accredited LL.M degree when you want to go to a 1 man operation law school.

Shame on YOU!"

http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23763&perpage=30&pagenumber=3

I see that you had previously claimed to have an accredited J.D. Now you say that it was a degree from NWCU. What's going on here buddy?

 

In his defense, maybe by "accredited" he meant "approved". But of course, you're technically correct; it's not accredited, as there's only one official accrediting body out there, the ABA.

 

JDLLM2,

I've always been a bit curious about NWCU because they're fairly successful at producing California lawyers (in a relative sense of course) yet they keep the price at a fairly reasonable level. So if you don't mind, a few questions about NWCU:

1- How much study support do you get? A course outline and a book list? Or a comprehensive list of cases, study notes, course outline, suggested texts, or all that plus tutor support and graded practice assignments?

2- Did they accept 3 years of transfer credit from Lincoln Law School and award you a NWCU JD after only one year as a student there, or did you transfer your credits from NWCU back to Lincoln Law and get a Lincoln Law JD?

3- Would you recommend NWCU to someone seeking a California DL JD, and if so, any reservations? Notwithstanding the usual limitations associated with such a degree.

4- Was there any interaction with other students, or were you really on your own?

5- Do you think they will pursue DETC accreditation even if they don't have to?

 

And if he GRADUATED from NWCU, this school is not even "approved" as no correspondence law schools can have that designation. It is merely "registered."

 

Ahhh! St. Thomas' D/L LL.M. in international taxation, I think it is? Perfectly good program if a bit "spendy".

Very interesting. Seems to me Regent University offered a similar D/L LL.M. for a while but couldn't generate enough interest, or at least, get enough folks to pony up the tuition, so the program was discontinued.

I have mentioned elsewhere that D/L LL.M. programs from ABA schools aren't wildly popular (so far) with the American Bar. I have never understood why not. It's interesting to hear from someone who actually completed one.

Fact is, the number of legitimate D/L LL.M. programs from American law schools is tiny. There's UConn, of which I know nothing beyond the bare fact of its existence, St. Thomas of course, the non ABA Taft University, and who else?

 

Northwestern California University www.nwculaw.edu

 

Alabama has one, but only for people in their region, as I think it's a video conference thing. Other than that, nada for ABA.

And as an aside, Osborne, I know I've been a bad boy, joining with the other juvenile delinquents to pick on the feral cat that's backed up in the corner and all, so my hands aren't clean here. But why do you think, counselor, this guy is so defensive here? He completed a JD by correspondence and is one of the few people breathing to have gotten through a DL LLM program (the difficulty level of which you're currently experiencing). Even if he then washed out of the Cal Bar, so what? That's not exactly unique and it's not something that brands someone as a mental midget.

IMHO, the only thing he needs to work on is the writing, grammar and spelling, but that's the easiest thing in the world to remedy; you just keep on reading and it'll come around.

Note to JDLLM:

For what it's worth, based on my reckoning of your accomplishments, you have no reason to act this way. Just lay low--low key it. When people eventually find out what you've done--so long as you don't parade it about and puff up like a balloon--they'll be intrigued and possibly impressed. They'll even like you.

 

JDLLM2,

I've always been a bit curious about NWCU because they're fairly successful at producing California lawyers (in a relative sense of course) yet they keep the price at a fairly reasonable level. So if you don't mind, a few questions about NWCU:

1- How much study support do you get? A course outline and a book list? Or a comprehensive list of cases, study notes, course outline, suggested texts, or all that plus tutor support and graded practice assignments?

2- Did they accept 3 years of transfer credit from Lincoln Law School and award you a NWCU JD after only one year as a student there, or did you transfer your credits from NWCU back to Lincoln Law and get a Lincoln Law JD?

3- Would you recommend NWCU to someone seeking a California DL JD, and if so, any reservations? Notwithstanding the usual limitations associated with such a degree.

4- Was there any interaction with other students, or were you really on your own?

5- Do you think they will pursue DETC accreditation even if they don't have to?


LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS

No real study support, at NWCU or St. Thomas, you on your own, you can ask questions and they will answer them but no study support, and no where do they provide a tutor!

In law school no hand holding, they give you alot of work and alot
of studying to do and then test you.

Also at Lincoln Law School of San Jose no study support either although some students formed study sessions together, I did not, I just went to class and took the exams.

You get the same type course outline at NWCU and ST. Thomas and Lincoln Law School of San Jose.

Alot of case briefings at Northwestern California and some papers
at least in the few advanced classes I took as a 4th year final student.

Some assignments at Lincoln, mainly quiz, mid term exam and final exam.

At St. Thomas, weekly writing assignment, mid-term exam, most classes required a paper and always a comprehensive final exam, usually Multi-Choice and essay type questions same as bar exam.

Northwestern California University is a good inexpensive quality school but honestly I had little contact there just finished my J.D. requirements and moved on to St. Thomas University.

It is alot of expense and work to get DETC accreditation and I do not think NWCU will ever get that accreditation unless after the new state law passes the State Bar makes correspondence schools get that type of accreditation since the State Bar never will accredit correspondence law schools.

Finally no real interaction with other students at NWCU, at least I didnt, also none at St. Thomas University either, distance learning is really only for those that can go in and do the work without
alot of support from other students.

Even at Lincoln I chatted during break and thats all, just did attended classes and participated in Q & A and took tests.

 

Hey, Little Fauss,

Congratulations your wife's pregnancy. Six children sounds like a lot. My wife and I used to plan for four, but that was before anyone told me that these things aren't as easy as one hopes all the time. So right now I have one, and keep hoping to do it right again one day and at least come up with #2.

You may recall a few months ago we spoke about my application to law school. On the off chance you remember, I will tell you it went as expected. And that means come this fall rather than ogling young women on campus I will remain employed (where I still ogle young women, only the opportunities are less plentiful).

 

Novemberdude:

Thanks for the congratualtions. Yes, I remember you. I also remember that you were shooting for heights--McGill, right?--to which few mere mortals dare, so it's no major comeuppance to not get in there.

What you planning to do for 2007? Take another crack at it?

 

Legitimate is open for debate, but no discussion on this subject would be complete without mentioning Heed University's Thomas Jefferson College of Law, which offers B.S.L., J.D., LL.M., and S.J.D. degrees.