Tea leaves?

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by nosborne48, Aug 24, 2020.

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    True - it can make the virus undetectable by standard tests. But the patient has to stay with medication. Some virus is still there, dormant inside "viral reservoir" cells. Quit the meds and it won't be "dormant" any more. Good info here.
    https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/10-things-know-about-hiv-suppression
     
  2. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Lincoln, quoting Jesus Christ. Mark 3:25.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Correct, we all are familiar with this JC saying.
    Did Lincoln had the same intent as JC? Did anything changed from 2000+ years ago?
     
  4. eriehiker

    eriehiker Active Member

    Just to get back to the original intent of this discussion, I think that Biden will win.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    We all know he already has. Question: When will Trump admit it?
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    He did. We all saw it happen.
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Never. He needs to maintain the fiction that the election was stolen from him. First, his ego demands it. Second, he needs it to keep his followers supporting him. They'll know it's nonsense, but it's the nonsense they want to hear. It fits their story, and they need that story to stay enraged. Their rage feeds them.
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Of course, Rich is right. Every word. Damn - there goes my last grain of optimism. Crap day, indeed.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Naw. The upside is that their vision is so limited, so uncreative, that they can be beaten in any fair election. In fact, if it wasn't for our wildly un-democratic Senate and Electoral College, we'd be past all that by now, leaving them in the dustbin of history. But it shall be achieved.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/morris-ballotstuffing-phoenix-detroit/2020/11/23/id/998441/

    Dick Morris to Newsmax TV: Stats Prove Ballot Stuffing

    (Newsmax TV/"Greg Kelly Reports")
    By Brian Trusdell | Monday, 23 November 2020 08:32 PM

     
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  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You know the old saying. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Fool me three times, I'm a Trump cult member, please fool me more.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I can't. I'm too busy. May I suggest a subscription to Newsmax?
     
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    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

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  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Newsmax is a questionable source for information, especially when discussing the election. It's an insane source.

    quote:
    When it comes to science, Newsmax does not always align with the consensus of experts in the given field. For example, they often promote that there is “no global warming“, which is simply untrue. Further, they have promoted misinformation regarding the safety of vaccines, chemtrails, CoronaVirus conspiracies, and unproven 2020 election fraud disinformation.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsmax/


    Fox News is not providing enough lies to feed my habit, give me Newsmax!!!!!
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Let me make it easier for you. I side with Conservatives and I'm supporter of President Trump.
    There is no cult, or cult leader. Its all in definitions to degrade people.
    It will be like saying Liberals are cult for people with mental disorder.
    What will it add to the discussion ?
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Now this is childish.
    CNM News is not providing enough lies to feed my habit, give me MSBC!!!!!!!
    Why not be an adult and refute the statement made, why not say Mr Morris is wrong because ..............
    Or Mr Dershowits is wrong because such and such.
    Insults are childish.

    Rich does it, he would post most of the responses and I learn form it.
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Because Brandolini's Law is a real thing: it's a lot less effort to keep spinning out BS from NewsMax and the like than it is to provide detailed refutations of their nonsense every single time.

    If you want real engagement, stick to real sources.
     
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  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    For the same reason one should not try to reason with a crazy person.

    Just because Dick Morris makes an assessment doesn't mean it has any validity.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Those were quotes from a balanced media evaluation site. Newsmax is a questionable news source in general. Newsmax spreads misinformation, when it comes to 2020 elections. Those are the facts. as presented on the media evaluation site that I linked to.

    Regarding my statement, I understand that folks aren't really searching for lies. They are switching from Fox News to Newsmax because they like the lies told there better than the truth. So in support of my statement, "Fox News is not providing enough lies to feed my habit, give me Newsmax!!!!!"

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2020/11/17/can-newsmax-challenge-fox-news/?sh=6095ec036e0d

    Newsmax is a disgrace to journalism.

    Trying to discuss silly lies is a waste of everyone's time in my opinion. As I mentioned weeks ago, if the accusations about election fraud were real they would have been presented in court weeks ago. They are just silly lies without evidence and so cannot be presented in court. Krebs was fired by Trump for officially stating for the DHS that 2020 was the most secure fraud free election in our history, remember that? If these statements about election fraud had any evidence to back them up it would be spread all over, in the courts and the media especially CNN and MSNBC. If it is just on Newsmax then we can all rest assured that they are nothing but lies. Discussing details of silly lies being told to you to get you to donate money to Trump and to support Trump is of no interest to me.
     
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