Question for Kirkland Regarding California Coast University

Unsubstantiated opinion, conjecture...

 

DETC may have been around since 1926, but it has been accrediting degree-granting schools for a much shorter period of time.

In 1980, DETC (then the NHSC) accredited exactly two bachelor's-granting schools, one of which (Grantham) survives today. It accredited no master's-granting schools.

In 1980, the RA's accredited more than two DL schools.

Today, the RA's still accredit far more DL schools (and schools with DL programs) than does the DETC. Also, the RA's accredit many schools offering the doctorate by distance learning. DETC, none.

 

DETC= GAPP- USDOE- CHEA !!!!
DETC- accredits master's granting schools

 

As to lack of utility, certainly the DETC schools have a lack of utility when it comes to some professional positions.

But how many RA schools offer by Distance Learning - Doctors-Registered Nurses, Optometrists, Doctors of Naturopathy, LPN'S, Veterinarians- Dentists-Lawyers/ unless you want to go the Calif/approved school route- and just about any medical field you can think of? The stature of the DETC has been established by 77 years of helping to provide distance education.

 

I don't think anyone disagrees that a DETC university and an RA university are accredited universities.

DETC accredited university credits and degrees are not always going to be accepted by RA universities for transfer.

In the working sector their acceptance is much higher.

The quality of the education is comparable. Some RA universities are better than others and some DETC universities are better than others.

DETC is in no way superior to RA. It is however a legitimate and practical alternative for many students.

Am I missing something?

 

As always... excellent.

 

Nope, the only other thing of relevance might be that DETC is vastly superior to unaccredited.

 

It would have something to do with the qualities of the schools. Some state approved schools offer some good stuff, CCU for instance. DETC schools are obviously competitive with most of the RA/DL schools, and better than some of them.

 

Wow James are you really familiar with most RA/DL schools? There are probably what? 1000-2000 of them?

 

Thanks, Michael. Every man a king...

 

I'm surprised to find that 1000-2000 RA schools offer DL degree programs. Would you mind listing them so we may make use of this enormous variety of education.

This from the University of Texas. Total of all regionally accredited colleges and universities.
1574 4 year RA colleges and universities
779 2 year colleges, and branch two year colleges
total- 2353 RA colleges and universities

www.utexas.edu/world/univ/state

I'm afraid Dr. Bear has been grossly under reporting the number of RA schools offering degrees by distance learning.

 

James

I do not know the exact number of RA schools that offer DL programs. That is why I used the question mark. I thought it was relative clear.

I do know there are roughly 4,000 RA schools. Your U of Texas qoute may be way out of date. Of the RA schools I am familiar with greater than 3/4 offer dl classes and programs. Is it possible in other regions it is lower? Certainly. I don't believe it would be a great difference. I think the number I mentioned is a pretty accurate estimate.

If we accept it is lower, are you still saying you are familiar with ALL RA programs?

 

What can I say, I have a great memory. DETC= GAPP-USDOE-CHEA

 

James

1. I have NO idea what your above statement means or implies.

2. You have failed to answer the question from the previous post for a second time. You said you were familiar with all RA DL programs. Is that true or was your previous claim false?

3. I am still try to figure out why you insist on misrepresenting exactly wht DETC accredition is. It certainly does DETC or DETC accredited schools no good.

 

I think you guys are splitting hairs. There is no doubt that DETC is a legitimate accrediting body.

I can say from my experience with talking this past week with Clemson that they will not accept CLEP except in rare cases. It is also written in their catalog that way. I asked if I had credits from a school that accepted CLEP such as Excelsior, and then transferred my credits back to Clemson if that would work, and I was told no that they would look at my overall transcripts, and that if many credits were by CLEP then they would not be accepted. Clemson also does not just take credits from another RA school. The transferring school, and courses have to be evaluated as equivalent.

Notice three that are missing? I am not knocking the big three because it looks like that may the direction I am heading, but it does go to show that things are not black and white when it comes to RA.
Here is a list:
Transfers