Migration policies are failing, migrants are strugling - ‘broken’ national immigration system

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Bill. Your story of your own family gives me a great deal of hope. Very comforting to read. I think I'll look around for more stories like yours. I'm sure they're out there. :)
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Fair enough... I can't deny that I feel schadenfreude whenever I know that a trend will piss off all the right people.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Schadenfreude is the second-best feeling I know of. :)
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    FBI Director Christopher Wray on Wednesday said that the number of illegal immigrants evading Border Patrol agents and escaping into the country is a source of "great concern" for the agency, as he told lawmakers that threats from the other side of the border are "consuming" FBI field offices.

    Wray testified to lawmakers on the House Homeland Security Committee about "worldwide threats" to the U.S. Chairman Mark Green asked Wray about the numbers of gotaways — illegal immigrants at the border who evaded Border Patrol — which have exceeded 600,000 in FY 23. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) sources tell Fox News there have been over 47,000 gotaways since the beginning of the new fiscal year on Oct. 1.

    Green said the number of gotaways since the beginning of the Biden administration could be well over two million.

    "Can the FBI guarantee American people that known or suspected terrorists, including any from Hamas or other terror groups, are not amongst those gotaways?" he asked.

    "Well, certainly the group of people that you're talking about are source of great concern for us. That's why we're aggressively using all 56 of our joint terrorism task forces," Wray said.

    Fox News
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    "Be afraaaaaaaaaaid!!!!!!"
     
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  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think it must be a left wing conspiracy. At least that was the general theme from the questioning coming from the Republican side questioning of Wray.

    Majorie Taylor Greene said Wray probably read her tweets and got them deleted. He told her that that he didn't read tweets. She basically called him a liar and said since he was part of the Homeland Security Department he had to read tweets to decide what to delete. He tried to tell her that the FBI was not part of the Homeland Security Department but she wasn't having any of that kind of nonsense stopping her.

    The interesting thing about all this is that Director Wray was appointed by Trump. He's probably a Republican. He's definitely not a left wing radical like he was being accused of all day today by the Republicans.
     
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Evictions begin in NY state

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/09/nyregion/migrant-families-homeless-shelter-evictions.html

    New York Begins Evicting Migrant Families Who Hit a Shelter Time Limit
    On Tuesday, families with children had to pack up their belongings and either find somewhere else to live or line up to reapply for shelter beds.

    The very cold winter poses real danger to the migrants.
    Maybe they will found their way to a warmer states, like AZ, CA, NM etc.
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    What a heartless, bleak place NY must be. Where I live, NOBODY can be evicted in "heating season." By law. We don't want to kill people. And even the thought of killing children ....brrr. It's not even human.
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It's not just the immigration system that's broken. It's the morality of people who would do this - or quietly allow it to happen where they live. Unconscionable.
     
  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I don't think being unhoused is particularly a migrant problem.

    As I have posted elsewhere, homelessness is a highly complex problem with different communities undergoing different challenges. Based on my own experience (but contrary to the apologists) the chronic homeless are often mentally ill and often abusing substances. The worst substance isn't alcohol, oddly enough. It's meth. These meth users are exceedingly difficult to house due to their behavior patterns.

    The short term homeless get there by being evicted. It's tragic and can be traumatic but is generally temporary and available resources can help a lot. Even more could be done if the country could stop hating on the undocumented but that's asking a lot of our largely dysfunctional government. So stupid. So short sighted.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    So immoral. And so hard to reconcile, considering that the people who put this crap into place and carry out orders are by-and-large, believers in, and often somewhat active adherents to, at least a couple of the world's major religions. But not that strange -- we've seen it all, and even worse, ... many times. Historically, gross, unconscionable treatment of other human beings is by no means confined to the U.S. Or Canada.
     
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right, It's certainly not just a migrant problem, although it is a problem of the same magnitude to an individual, migrant or not. And migrants mostly have less solutions available than others
    "Generally temporary? Not nearly always. Not by a long shot. Once you've lost your place in the rental market, it's VERY tough to get back in. Record of non-payment and eviction is available to future prospective landlords -- and they don't want previous defaulters - for ANY reason - as tenants. Regardless of whether the back rent has been cleared up or not.

    "They do it once, they'll do it again," seems to be the watchword.
     
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They're not in the rental market, they're in shelters that are far exceeding their capacity. It's no wonder New York City has started offering migrants a one way ticket to anywhere.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I know that. I was talking - at that point - about non-migrants. Nosborne48 had observed that it's not just a problem affecting migrants - and I acknowledged that. And eviction is eviction. Whether it's from a migrant (or other) shelter or a rented dwelling. Same problem, to the affected individuals, in both cases.
     
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  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  17. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

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  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-sends-cops-outposts-arizona-222300899.html

    The NYPD is again expanding its footprint to deal with the migrant crisis and drug trafficking, posting one detective in Arizona and another in Colombia, a top department official said Wednesday.

    The new outposts — in Tuscon and Bogotá — bring to 18 the number of cities, mostly foreign, where the largest police department in the U.S. has assigned an investigator to work closely with authorities in each location.

    Deputy Commissioner Rebecca Weiner said the goal is for the NYPD to get accurate information as quickly as possible if an event elsewhere could impact the city, such as Oct. 7, when the detective assigned to Tel Aviv alerted her to the Hamas terror attack in Israel in real time.
     
  19. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I really wish people would quit repeating Trump’s lies about migrants all being rapists and drug dealers. The reason MAGA world repeats these lies is to de-humanize wretched and vulnerable people and make them fit targets for the most cynical political uses.
     
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  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed. I wish the same. And I also wish people would quit repeating ALL Trump's lies -- about everything else. Above all, I wish Trump himself would quit repeating all his lies. And that day will come.... I think his mortality is starting to show.
     

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