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Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by Kizmet, Feb 12, 2020.

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  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I missed the part where the guy paid any kind of "price", except not meeting some goals other people think he should have met. He spent his life pursuing a harmless passion; this strikes me as happier life most of us have led. Not that his exact template would work for anyone else.
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Great Story. Unlike Aric Hall and the other guy -- he has a career. The story mentioned Prof. V.N. Parthiban - the Indian professor who has 145 Academic titles, earned over 35 years. So I looked him up. Incredible list -- and he's had a career too. Thanks!

    https://yourstory.com/2016/09/vn-parthiban
     
  3. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Member

    To receive these many degrees, you have to be enrolled in asynchronous programs. His Masters degrees were likely all research and no coursework. I pulled the trigger on the PhD from UCN although I have not started working on the research and dissertation yet. I have pondered over upgrading my unaccredited graduate religious studies degree to an accredited degree. I have also thought about completing one of the ENEB dual Master degree programs as well. This could definitely be done as it would be an additional three accredited/recognized Masters degrees that could be done in less than a year total for less than $1000. Of course this would be done as a hobby. I'm actually wanting to complete the PhD for the life-long learning aspect, not a career boost although I may use in as an adjunct.
     
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Reluctantly, I have to concede your point, Stanislav...But I read a few articles on him today, and I learned he was married. I'm just wondering what the series of low pay jobs to get school discounts was like for his family life. They made it work, I guess, but...

    This is one of those times when more than one person was involved in the decision. So -- I dunno. Only the Nicholsons know for sure. So right - I'm not the judge, so I don't get to deliver the verdict. (There was a bit of a pile-on in the original DI thread on Mr. Nicholson, though.)

    I note he started off with a religious degree. Well, at least he didn't follow up by collecting titles of nobility...
     
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  5. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I can think of a few more toxic things a husband may do with his life that affects his family... I can think of multiple things they could have made it work. There are tons of people working same kind of staff positions at universities all their life, with no ambition to move up or make any kind of career. This guy just had an eccentric hobby on top of it, the one largely paid for with employee benefits (I likewise might grab myself an MBA simply because I have a tuition waiver for 2 classes a semester).. Heck, I have done worse (starting with, I dunno, initiating a third international move in my married life?), and I think we're doing OK.

    Yes.
    I already wrote that I don't quire understand this obsession, seeing how a hiereos is a lofty title in itself (one not only get one's hands kissed by other adults, but gets to participate in the Mystery of turning mundane matter into The True Body of Lord our God). But I am definitely missing something. Traditional Churches, after all, do have an elaborate rank structure and a system of awards and decorations. Eg., Fr. Andrew is a Mitrophore Archimandrite, the highest you can go without becoming a bishop. His latest validation agreement, btw, is a promising one in this regard - Uzhgorod Theological Academy under Bishop Viktor gives out shiny decorations with their research degrees. You get a shiny medal with stones with a Candidate of Theology, and a second pectoral cross (priests already wear one; a second is normally a high award. I wonder what people do if they get an Uzhgorod ThD AND awarded a second cross by their Bishop - wear three?) with a Doctorate. This, I remind you,is a fully accredited school. Fr. Andrew may choose to go for a Doctorate #6 just to get a new shiny thing.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member


    Yes. I can think of worse things a husband can do, too... but we're not talking about them - they don't apply here. Just saying that this extended hobby may not have had the same economic benefits to his family as a career based on fewer degrees might have. But again, you're right - I'm not the judge. I bet there have been quite a few people willing to take on that role, though.

    You did your international moves with full thought of your family - and their good. Sorry we (Canada) lost you. We lost a really good man.
    And yes - I reallze the school is accredited - and that Fr. Andrew is the "real thing," as are his degrees. The noble titles, Duke etc.? Well, I guess even high-ranking clerics are entitled to a hobby.

    I can see why you might want to pick up that MBA. It makes perfect sense -- and I'm pretty sure you won't want to earn 11 others. Not my business if you did. Let us know when you receive it - I'll be here to congratulate you. Honest. :)
     
  7. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    If you absolutely feel the need to pick up 100 degrees, go for it, but this can be handled in a very simple way on your CV: just list the few degrees that fit the job you're applying for. Now, if a person just can't bring themselves to do that, then it may be time to seek professional counseling help because you may have a deeper unhealthy motivation with a sprinkle of self-sabotage.
     
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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Not sure how that distinction makes a difference. Research and coursework are both rigorous scholarly activities. An argument could be made that favors either one in terms of rigor, time consumption, etc.
     
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  9. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Member

    It makes a difference not in rigor but in time constraints. I can't imagine him taking multiple courses across several disciplines at one time. However, I could see him doing several thesis/dissertations at one time. I'm thinking the research programs would allow more flexibility in time limits as far as completing the Masters degrees in a year as oppose to the two year Masters degrees here in the US that are usually atleast 80% coursework. The US system keeps students in school longer. This is why many students from the US who decide to complete a PhD will likely have more credit hours with advanced standing into a PhD at places who use the ECTS system like Azteca and UCN.
     
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  10. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    I graduated from my ENEB MBA with '' excellent and a special distinction ''. My average score was 9,8/10.
    I'm happy with this milestone.
     
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  11. asianphd

    asianphd Member

    Cool! Any special tips on how to do that? That's quite an achievement.
     
  12. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Write a lot! :)
    My projects were on average 45 pages. The normal guideline is 18 pages but that's too little to intensely develop your project.
    Something that also really helps is doing extra work. I always added interviews with business owners that I recorded and wrote out ( exhausting to contact the business owners because most won't have time but there are always one or two who will be happy to assist), I wrote essays about multiple studies on labor psychology etc that I read and analyzed.
    Also, references. A lot.
    My projects always contained at least 1 reference per paragraph. That's very important.
    Both in text references and bibliography references are extremely important to deliver a professional end product.
    Some resources that I highly recommend are Harvard Business Review and SearchGate.

    Hope that helps.

    Kind regards.
     
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  13. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    WOW! Now THAT'S how you get the most out of your education! But I can just imagine the shock on the faces of the graders when receiving 45 page papers, LOL!
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    That's impressive! You're sure to be ENEB / U. Isabel I's star graduate! If you enrol somewhere later for a doctorate - tell the school to rent a crane for your dissertation! :)
     
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  15. asianphd

    asianphd Member

    45 pages? It is very impressive! No wonder you get an "excellent and a special distinction" :D
    How many hours do you spend on average for that 45 pages project?
    I am really curious, I am glad if you would like to share one example of your project :D
     
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  16. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    On average I spent two days non-stop on a project. At 11 hours a day.
    So 22 hours in total per project on average.
    I love writing though.
     
  17. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    That's exactly it, I work at home and have lots of time spent on coursework/projects. The ENEB classes are not a simple cake walk, you have to put the effort into it, however, having said that, I would follow the rubric as needed and work towards a little more than they are requesting. The extra effort pays off, you really don't need to go overboard, I love writing as well and these help me improve my current skill set...
     
  18. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Plus you get a real master's degree :)
     
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  19. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Member

    Very admirable that you sought to get the most from it.
     
  20. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    That's like Nations University, but in reverse. The student settles the score over the school's excessive writing assignments by submitting nearly 5 times the required writing, lol.
     
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