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  1. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    That's a bummer :-(
    Would there be a difference between accumulating associates degrees and accumulating masters degrees though? I think there should be a difference somewhere.
    I mean associate's is seen as level 5 internationally while master's is seen as level 7 internationally.
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    $20K a month is a million dollars in 4 years, 2 months. $20K a year is a million dollars in....50 years. Hmmmm....

    Accumulating Master's degrees sometimes doesn't pay off. We had a thread on one guy who had I think 19 of them - he was accused in the thread of doing it to avoid employment. I think someone was trying to be funny, perhaps... but I have to admit, the story struck me as weird. Still does.

    The guy's name was Nicholson and he's mentioned in this thread,
    https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/anyone-experienced-with-triune-biblical-university.48714/#post-481397 I tried to bring up the cited article and couldn't. IIRC Nicholson took low-level maintenance jobs on campus, which enabled him to study for free.

    I'll try to locate the story. Someone remarked in the thread "too many degrees can turn someone into an a$$hole." He may have been right...
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  4. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    Whatever you do, don't buy a Post-graduate degree from them, those are only 12 ECTS and they're $149 each. The most I purchased from ENEB was 3 and I think that's about it, I won't be doing anything more with them. MBA, Big Data & BI for $250 USD and Digital Marketing & E-Commerce for $217 USD.

    I understand that there are courses that overlap but the MBA (13 courses) +Big Data (7) already were 20 courses, the Digital Marketing/Ecommerce only added about 4-5 or so different courses, and getting anything more would be somewhat redundant, they only have about 40 total courses in all their "Masters" combined.

    I also thought they only allowed two purchases, didn't know you could buy that many. In regards to buying out ENEB, lol, I don't think I have the urge to do so nor the capital... I think it's more wise to partner with a few "for profits" to make a mega cheapo university consortium.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Glad to hear it -- I was only joking about it, because you were asking about schools for sale a while ago and indicating you might like to buy one. I agree - I don't think this is the one for you. "Mega Cheapo University Consortium." Has a certain ring to it. I like it! Reminds me of an old joke:

    Three grad students won essay prizes - one an American, one Canadian and a French student. The prize was an extended, all-paid tour of Africa. All they had to do was write a paper on some aspect of elephant life, when they returned. They had a great trip and wrote these papers when they got back home:

    The French Student: "The Amazing and Romantic Love Life of the African Elephant"
    The American: "Towards a Bigger and Cheaper Elephant"
    The Canadian: "The Elephant: Federal or Provincial Problem?" (OK - maybe you have to live here to like that one.) :)
     
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  6. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Nope. They said I could buy as many as I wanted. First I bought two additional ones. Then I was so addicted that I thought, hey I have still 500 to waste, why not buy three extra and do something useful with the money. So I bought 3 additional ones for 420 euro. Every additional master was 140 euros.

    I'm motivated to finish them all 6.

    I hate that it costs so much to have a physical diploma with apostille sent your way though.
    I hope most employers will just accept a virtual copy of the diplomas because I'm not enclined to pay so much extra for an apostille. An apostille doesn't even certify anything when it comes to diplomas.
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Toronto? Many people who work there can't afford to live there - even on big money. My son's house is about 60 miles from Toronto - but Toronto is where most of the people around him work. He doesn't work there - he's a high school teacher around here. Daily trips from here to Toronto and back are a grind. Commuting nightmare! Lots of these people (if not ALL of them) would have incomes in excess of 100K. They found they could buy nice houses here, for about half what they went for in Toronto. Many sold their Toronto houses and made a pile of money on the deal. Now, so many people have bought here that a lot of the price difference has nearly disappeared. People here pay a lot more than they did even a few years ago.

    Montreal? I'm crazy about it - not sure I'd want to live there. Very nicely-kept and miles and miles of upscale underground shopping. Musically etc. - a cultural Mecca, no matter what kind you like. And there's no such thing as a bad restaurant - a bad one would not survive for a week! The downside - so many Quebecois want to take their Province out of Canada. One day they might do it - and I think it might become suddenly very poor and turn hostile to outsiders. Don't want to be there then. But a great place now for visits. Always enjoyed it.

    Met a man there once, who'd travelled extensively all over North America. He said there were only 4 cities at the top of his list. Two Canadian, Two American. Montreal, Quebec City, New Orleans and San Francisco. I've seen the two Canadian ones and I agree. I know I'd like New Orleans - food's great and they have 96 awesome kinds of music. San Francisco - I'm sure I could keep myself well-entertained there too...

    As you say Vincent - dreams, dreams...
     
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  8. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Why wouldn't you just have it printed yourself? It would cost like, $1 USD or less depending on where you live.
     
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  9. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Québec shares a lot of problems with Belgium in that regard.

    Here in Belgium there is a very strong tension between the Flemish and Walloons.
    My mother is Flemish and Dutch so I tend to side with the Flemish.
    The Walloons feel minorized and are scared for a split of the country, which has been discussed for years but never came to something concrete.

    In that regard Canada shares a lot of the structural issues that Belgium shares.
    Centripetal federalism.
    As opposed to centrifugal America.

    As for Canadian food, I love Poutine. I have been raised with it.

    I think I would prefer to live in the English speaking part of Canada if I were to move to Canada one day.
    The French mentality is difficult to understand. I also am more fearful to speak French than to speak English. Which is very weird since I was raised bilingual with French and Dutch.
    English was my third language yet I prefer the more simplified grammar and syntaxis of the English language than of the French language.

    By the way, the Eneb programs have taught me that Spanish is a nightmare with all those accents on the o and on the a and on letters that germanic languages would not put accents on.
    Spanish itself is easy to understand but writing it correctly with all those weird accents on words is strange...
    I took Spanish in high school and forgot everything except for a few basic words.
    What I do remember from back then is that Spanish grammar was easy.
    They only have a few tenses.
     
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  10. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Most likely I will do that. I'm still debating on it.
    I don't feel like paying for it.
    They charge quite a lot for a physical copy.
    I'm just worried that employers will be nagging about the fact that it doesn't carry an apostille.
    But I think I will just give them the verification code to verify in the Isabel system that I indeed graduated there because otherwise it can amount to over 2k$ just for having physical copies of my degrees and I would think that that expense is a bit a waste of money.
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    An apostille is usually a sign of a racket. It's very often sold with degree mill papers. All an apostille does is declare that the diploma from the "Ecole Universitaire Frauduleuse" is not a forgery. It really came from the degree mill named. I'd be VERY VERY suspicious of any outfit that deals in them....
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It gets easier, I promise you. The only difficulty I find is doing any French, German or Spanish diacritical marks (accents, umlauts etc.) on a computer. I know where they go, but you make them one way for Windows, (fairly easy) another for MAC (really easy) and a third for my Linux laptop - more difficult than the others. Other than that... yeah, it gets easier.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Is the "virtual copy" a PDF file - or some other common computer format? If it is, as AsianStew says, having it printed shouldn't cost any more than about 1 euro -anywhere. You could even do it yourself at a library - or at home if you have a printer. Where does this $2K come in?
     
  14. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I would avoid that stuff. Unless an apostille is important to have in your country, I wouldn't bother with it or paying for any physical diplomas. It's going to be the same thing whether they print it or you print it.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - and IIRC only 4 verb endings per conjugation. (OK, five with tú form) Knowing Latin and Greek grammar, as you do, makes the grammar of Spanish (and quite a few others) look easy. The grammar of classical languages prepares you well for a lot of things. It's like a framework, or template and sometimes e.g. Spanish, you only have to use part of it.

    There must be a different template for many non-Western languages though. ... dunno where they keep it. If you find that one, let me know. :)
     
  16. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Member

    That will look crazy on a resume. I thought I looked crazy with 3 Associates, a Certificate of Proficiency, Bachelors, Graduate Certificate, and Masters. Technically, I have a Masters of Religious Studies from Nations University as well while it was seeking accreditation so I don't list that credential. Now that it is nationally accredited, I only need to do 6 courses to upgrade it to an accredited Master of Theological Studies.
     
  17. asianphd

    asianphd Member

    I didn't list all of the credentials, especially on LinkedIn. I just choose which one is needed (in case of ENEB case). It is a very nice little booster for my resume.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed it will. Last time I looked, that Hall fella hadn't had a job for 13 years.

    The ONE place nobody needs craziness is on their resume. Might make a really nice "I love me" wall, though...
     
  19. asianphd

    asianphd Member

    Want to see a crazy dude from Indonesia?
    But at least this guy is quite respected in Indonesia. He does quite well at his job and he also has his own consultant office.

    https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/j5ymjx/indonesian-man-32-degrees-certifications-university

    His LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/welinkusuma/
     
  20. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Active Member

    I don't list *all* credentials either.

    I would fear that this list would look like "Hey, my list is longer than your list" or like "hey, look! I am completely clueless what to do!" or even "My day job does not stretch me, so I got a sh*tload of credentials".
     
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