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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    This is discussed on degreeforum.net, check it out. Basically, ENEB is a company, not a school. These diplomas are apparently awarded jointly with Universidad Isabel I, which is a small but real for-profit school in Spain. In Spanish system, there are two tiers of awards: titulo oficiel, where the curriculum is regulated by the government, and titulo propio, designed by universities on their own (subject to some regulations, like the number of credits required for a degree) Titulo propios lack certain rights that go with the official ones, like employment within public service and access to doctoral programs - but may have value in private sector; real schools are really doing this. ENEB programs award titulo propio from Universidad Isabel I. How good is this diploma from an unknown school is anyone's guess. This is a lot like the situation with Polish "certificates of post-diploma training"; may or may not be subtly different. I don't know how this would fare with credential evaluators; probably mixed at best. So yeah, not illegal, but a notch short of mainstream recognition.
    One can learn something from these programs, so if anyone has $300 to blow, by all means try. Claiming the "Groupon MBA" on resume, OTOH, is inviting ridicule, and not just from Levicoff.

    PS: in this context, "NLP" is not "natural language processing". It's "neuro-linguistic programming", a well-known but controversial set of techniques aimed at "influencing people". There's a whole industry of "NLP training" and "coaching", so this is not too surprising.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks for the summary. I suspected as much. Now I'll probably have to delete the link

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  5. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Universidad Isabel I is a non-profit school according to the European Commission:

    https://epale.ec.europa.eu/en/organisations/universidad-isabel-i-foundation

    ENEB teaches the courses, Universidad Isabel I issues the degree.
     
  6. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    Using Groupon for this is not a good look, but Universidad Isabel is not a diploma mill. However, I would expect trouble getting credits transferred without a foreign degree evaluation. If I were in the market and looking to cut costs, it's cheap enough to use as a way to knock some credits off a program from a more recognizable school, provided an evaluation deems the credits equivalent.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    On the one hand, you don't have to mention on your CV that you used Groupon to save 96% off the sticker price.

    On the other hand, it is a business degree, so maybe you want to look like someone who knows how to save 96% off expensive things?
     
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  8. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Has anyone there taken it yet? Is it actually worthwhile?
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The fifteen page (so far) post on this on the other forum has comments from people who are doing it: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-MBA-and-MA-at-ENEB-for-just-under-300

    The people who have actually signed up for it say it's not bad. That tracks with a colleague of mine in Nigeria who at that price signed up for it just to take a look at the curriculum, and said it's better than he expected.
     
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  10. asianphd

    asianphd Member

    I signed up for the MBA and Master of Big Data. Yes, the knowledge itself is very worth. You also get Business Spanish here.

    The only things you need to aware is the perception of the university itself. I even didn't write it as a degree, but a certificate. Kinda like Postgraduate Certificate or Master Certificate. I just want to make a differentiation between them.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's your call, but I don't know why you'd do that. The degrees come from Universidad Isabel I, which may not be the Harvard of Spain, but it is recognized there.
     
  12. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Interesting! Do they have free-trial? I just want to see the materials.
     
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Sadly, no. Although I can't say I blame them!
     
  14. Johann766

    Johann766 Member

    From where do you have the information, that Universidad Isabel is awarding the degree? I don´t see any of this on the Groupon deal website.
    Universidad Isabel is a state-recognised school accoring to the German anabin system!!
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  16. engadnan

    engadnan Member

    So, i have now embarked on the ENEB's Program. Let's see if i can get out something from the content. I have also reserved $40,000 for the Court Fees and Attorney. Re. Jail Time, i do expect to have some Internet Connectivity there to keep you guys updated on future plans.

    By the way, this Groupon advertisement was ridiculous. I, at least, took the liberty to contact ENEB and paid directly on their website instead of buying some Coupon. The whole idea of buying an MBA (as per the Groupon advertisement) sounded absurd.
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You're about 10 days late, but okay. ;)
     
  18. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    Yes, I signed up for the MBA and Master of Big Data for $299. I found it useful, for usage as a preview/overview of an MBA and Masters. However, I won't be listing it as an MBA or Master but instead as a Graduate Diploma as they're 30 credits and they don't have the necessary research project/thesis or capstone a real Master's degree will have. I found it so useful, I purchased the $249 Masters in Digital Marketing and E-Commerce to use as another Graduate Diploma! And yeah, I am on the other thread on the sister board as well...
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Is it part of your plan to run these credential through some degree equivalency service? Or are you going to simply do that on your own?
     
  20. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Real master's? Well Master of Science degree from Lamar had 30 credits and it's very real. The number of credits is a school choice.
     
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