First 2024 Presidential Debate

Oh please. Every major candidate not named Donald Trump was decent.

I'd go as far as saying that retrospectively, Biden'2020 was the RIGHT choice, of all the available alternatives. He managed to push through infrastructure bill, avoided government shutdown, and lowered the obscene insulin price. I am not at all sure AT THAT MOMENT anyone else would have done better. Rather doubt that, in fact.

If the voting public were rational, this would have been enough for re-election. Unfortunately they are not rational, and I don't know how "not rational". Possibly Harris is a better bet politically now.

 

Are you willing to admit Trump did anything right? How does Harris work as any kind of political bet? Isn't she the same DA that slept her way into California politics? And, while everyone points out Trump's narcissism - I do not believe I have ever heard Harris say anything remotely intelligent.

 

She's the same AG who got the biggest settlement from major banks for mortgage fraud. And yes, you are being sexist.
Donald Trump is a despicable human being with no regard for democracy. And he didn't even manage to build a single Autobahn.

 

There have been multiple comments about her mediocrity and allegedly that is why she was chosen.

She has her own history of an inability to communicate (not due to senility but being verbally inarticulate).

 

I would vote for Trump, except I have a policy against voting for felonious traitors who tried to stay in power illegally after being voted out of office. But hey, that's just me.

 

Alleged mediocrity as factor in her selection is speculative bullshit. Sadly, the press on all sides insists on feeding these dumb takes to people.

Trump and, presently, Biden aren't articulate either. If we were going by this alone, there are several candidates that would be better. Buttigieg. Warren. Bernie Sanders. Heck, even Ted Cruz. I think these examples clearly show articulateness is in fact not the only consideration.

Kamala would do just fine if elected. Is she the best? Nah. But she will do. If you recall, she used to be my first choice, behind unrealistic fantasy choice if Elizabeth Warren (or even longer shot - Hillary). Now? I wish Joe was healthy and victorious. If we can't have him - Kamala would do just fine.

 

Giving his position on vaccination, I don't believe he would have handled COVID-19 well.
Other than that, seems to be a reasonable guy I fundamentally disagree with on several points. Hillary was a quality candidate in that cycle.

 

Kamala gives no indication of being ready to be President. The thought is terrible.

Granny Karen Elizabeth Warren.....bwah...ha....ha. She would like to speak to the manager.

 

Obama, Romney, and McCain were all sane and intelligent. McCain's mistake was picking Sarah Palin as his running mate. It's intriguing how you don't see the problem with having a narcissist in power, especially after the recent criminal immunity decision.

I'd rather have a president who didn't lie about the seriousness of a virus while over a million Americans died, but I guess that's asking for too much. Trump should be in prison for genocide.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-told-bob-woodward-he-knew-february-covid-19-was-n1239658

 

Harris has said many things that are far more intelligent than asking if people should ingest disinfectants or get sunlight in the veins to kill SARS-CoV-2.

 

The accusations are not that she's inarticulate. The accusations are that she's an ineffective communicator because she fails to connect with people on an emotional level. A lot of American voters don't vote rationally, which is why "boring" candidates often lose. Bush II was inarticulate, but a lot of people found him likable.

 

Sort of related - Bernie Sanders spoke at the most advanced level, which might have been a disadvantage considering how many Americans are functionally illiterate. However, grade level of speech should not be conflated with articulation. George W. Bush made a lot of mistakes, but he was speaking at almost a high school level.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-speech-seventh-grade-reading-level-2016-8

 

One good thing Tump did? Sure. The Trump individual income tax changes. They didn't go far enough and the overall rates need to increase significantly but they were a major step in the right direction. They probably won't be renewed in 2025 because so many oxen were gored. There certainly won't be any movement to push the reform to its logical and correct conclusions. That's a shame.

 

Nope. They play videos of her talking. Not boring just jumbling up words and making no sense. Bush looked articulate compared to her.

 

Well. Looks like for once I called it. Biden took himself out and Harris will probably be the nominee. The second part of the crystal ball vision is Harris wins in November. I think she will.

 

Newsmax was right about today. If Harris is the nominee I think she will lose in November. Up until now she hasn't shown much in the way of spark or competency and has a whole list of communication gaffes. So all I can say is she better have a new and improved Harris 2.0 by the time she enters the campaign. Otherwise the contrast between her less than literate style and Trump's strength is not going to be good.

 

I find it interesting that you believe Harris to be less than literate and it's Trump strength. Trump rambles on worse than Biden with the one exception of Biden's debate performance. Worse Trump rarely tells the truth.

 

Harris inherits one big advantage from Biden...she isn't Donald Trump. Whatever else one might think or say, she doesn't scare people. Trump does.