Course accreditation crisis in top Ugandan Universities

If you're arguing that there is agreement amongst all Christians from a reading of Bible that LGBTQ+ is immoral and sinful then I don't believe that is true. Or perhaps you just forgot what we were discussing?

 

Wait, wait, wait, wait...

Everyone is focusing on the cereal itself. Which, I agree, is reasonable, because that's so far-fetched. There are so many reasons why that's not going to be on a box of cereal.

Which means that everyone's glossing over the country. Jamaica? You really want to claim Jamaica, of all places, is going to allow cereal picturing gay sex to be sold? Jamaica, where homosexual acts are illegal? If you're going to make up nonsense, at least make it more believable.

 

Indeed. For instance, I've read that's exactly what happened in many North American Native tribes.

 

Charles Lwanga?

 

Google: "One of 22 Ugandan martyrs, Charles Lwanga is the patron of youth and Catholic action in most of tropical Africa."
St. Charles Lwanga was martyred for his Catholic faith. I fail to see what that has to do with the subject here. It was pointed out that missionaries (of various denominations) spread a lasting. very conservative attitude to homosexuality. during the colonial period.

And yes, St. Charles Lwanga and 21 other Ugandan martyrs died for their faith. How does this negate or change what I said, or what Steve said?

 

Site with full story on the Ugandan Martyrs - Catholic, Anglican and Muslim, killed on a king's orders.
https://www.silverbackgorillatours.com/uganda/the-uganda-martyrs#:

 

That's how Psychology works. You can condition a person to think he/she is a certain way, just like astrology does

 

Some wisdom here. Yes there are books and even the kids' shows are following suit.

 

My friend saw it at the store and she took a picture.

 

I'm under no pressure to prove a point as my opinion is good enough for me. My friend took a picture and put it up on her whatsapp status. So what "nonsense" have I made up, you seem to know what every store sell sin Jamaica I see. Again I'm under no pressure, not by you or anyone. Have your doubts but pls watch what you say.

 

Right - not to BE gay, or to BE any other orientation that they aren't. But some people CAN trick, lure or force others into sex acts not within their orientation. Sexual predators.

 

Your opinion may be good enough for you but Rachael's point is that in an academic world your opinion doesn't make it true. It must be demonstrated by facts, evidence, and so on.

This cereal box sounds like nonsense. Kellogg's has had cereal boxes celebrating pride month but not sex acts. You will need more than an alleged photo (possibly photoshopped photo). Some credible source (and something like that would be news).

 

You can condition behaviour, by reward - or possibly punishment. Dog trainers and sexual predators both do that - for different purposes, of course. Only fools - not psychologists - think sexual orientation could be changed by conditioning. In fact, homosexuality is not a psychological disorder - it was removed from the DSM (Diagnostic Standards Manual) many years ago.

I don't believe in astrology. I do think horoscopes etc. have some fun-and-entertainment value. Astrologers make their money by telling folks what they want to hear. That's OK, I think --- but it's a major con-job. Nothing else. People from other societies may have different views - and are free to think as they please.

 

Yes - I was thinking of brainwashing, as I finished the other post. Terrible things can be done with conditioning. Result - you can get completely broken people who will do exactly what you want and nothing else. Not the area of the legitimate psychologist. Nightmare stuff. We (Ontario) weren't far from that stuff in the 1970s, administering aversion therapy to gays, with electric shock treatments, to "convert them".

Good site (I think) on "conversion therapy" here. https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/SexualOrientation/IESOGI/CSOsKZ/REPORT_-_Conversion_Therapy_in_Canada_Nov_2019.pdf

Excerpt (1):"Conversion therapy practices are unethical and immoral because they imply that LGBTQ2 lives are less valuable, less desirable, and less worth living than heterosexual or cisgender persons. Ultimately, these practices believe that being an LGBTQ2 person is a disorder, sin, or disease that must be fixed, cured, healed, or repaired."

Excerpt (2): "The global scientific consensus confirms that conversion therapy does not work and is an unscientific and fraudulent practice, which is now mostly found in some faith and cultural communities that believe being LGBTQ2 is the result of childhood abuse, absent or overbearing parents, and/or is a sin, choice, or “deviant lifestyle” that a person must be saved from."

(Emphases mine - J.)

 

I don't have that time mate. I say it again I am not under any pressure from anyone, I say what I have been shown and whether or not you believe it really doesn't matter to me and doesn't change my opinion about the subject matter. Oh! In the academic world, I didn't get the memo this was a thesis defence. So opinions are meant to vary and not meant to be proven, arguments are. My opinion stands, yours stands for you too, simple

 

You are flat out wrong. The fact of the matter is that almost all social pressures are leading folks into heterosexual paths not homosexual paths. It is completely ridiculous to think otherwise. I know of many examples where homosexuals have gotten married to the opposite sex and then realized they couldn't live that way. I have never heard of one single example of a person doing the opposite. It makes no sense. It is just plain ignorant to even believe that.

 

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Oh really. That you haven't heard doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I have seen and know someone that was blackmailed into sodomy, he was caught stealing in high school and that was it and for years he was used, today he struggles with it as he doesn't like the fact that it went on for so long that he started to accept it

 

I did a Google search and could find no evidence of Ebulk's assertion about a Pebble's cereal box. An opinion that an inconceivable thing like this has occurred is not an opinion. It is instead one of two things. It is either a lie or a gullible belief. That is much different from an opinion.