Course accreditation crisis in top Ugandan Universities

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by musasira, May 22, 2023.

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  1. musasira

    musasira Member

  2. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Wow, expired since 2015... what happened there? Didn't anyone at least try to extend or renew their accreditation properly during all that time?
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    What happened here? I respectfully suggest you address that question to the Vice-Chancellor of Kyambogo and Makerere University and the Chairman of NCHE, the Accreditor. They work closely together - in fact, they are the same person. That person would know.
     
  4. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    On mobile that URL repeatedly redirects me to scam/spam sites :(
     
  5. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Yet, they are quite worried about gay people bringing down the country's morals and corrupting the culture and so have passed a bill with all kinds of special provisions for homosexuals (prison, death penalty).
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed. We already have a thread on those atrocious measures here:
    https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/ugandas-anti-homosexuality-act.62094/#post-584847

    Unfortunately, Uganda is not the only African country where people are persecuted and killed solely for their sexual orientation.
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2023
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Here's an article listing 14 countries where being gay is punishable by death. Many are African, most are Muslim, where the death penalty can be imposed under an interpretation of the Shari'a code. (Death penalty if people engage in extramarital sex - regardless of their, or partner's gender.) Barbaric, especially when a country has fighter jets, cellphones, modern hospitals ---- and THIS!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/14/countries-where-being-gay-is-legally-punishable-by-death/39574685/
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Even without the death penalty, persecution is facilitated to the extreme by some countries' justice systems. A few years ago, in Cameroon, two young men were jailed for five years. Their offence: "Looking gay and drinking Bailey's Irish Cream." -- I'm serious!

    It took two years of international pressure to get these two men released. How many others, left behind?
     
  9. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Wow. Just wow.
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  11. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Teenagers here will say that is gay or that looks gay. Apparently takes on whole new meaning in Cameroon. Unpleasant and unjustified removal of their liberty made worse and more dangerous by what I imagine to be less than even 1 star prison accomodations. Some of these countries seem to think it is 1623 not 2023.

    Even Ted Cruz let Uganda have it and was promptly attacked by a Baptist Pastor and blogger.
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right. It appears there are quite a few Americans, like that pastor, who think it's still 1623. Or wish it was.
     
  13. Michael Burgos

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  14. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    I'm fairly certain that homosexual practice was illegal, not unlike adultery and sodomy more generally, long after 1623. Indeed, there are still US states that have laws prohibiting homosexual practice on the books.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    One and the same as I see it. And "aggravated" I think is a meaningless term here - just designed to criminalize.
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No there aren't. Sodomy laws (which were largely aimed at gays -J.) all struck down - the last 14 states. Here:

    However, in 2003, the Supreme Court reversed the decision with Lawrence v. Texas, invalidating sodomy laws in the remaining 14 states: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Virginia.

    Whole thing here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I know that. I just used 1623 because that was the year Garp referenced:
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I revise my statement. Even though the laws were invalidated, 16 Benighted States still have them on the books and occasionally enforce them. (But the charges appear to be consistently thrown out) The original intent of these laws is said to be the banning of any sexual activity that was not potentially reproductive .

    OML - I was right after all - it IS 1623 -in 16 States! Article here:

    https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/01/24/sodomy-laws-us-states-perverted-sexual-practice-lawrence-texas-louisiana-maryland-bestiality/

     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Sodomy, according to some of the ultra-righteous-appearing crowd includes oral sex. I always thought the two were different. There's still a myth that oral sex - regardless of participants' gender - is illegal in 18 states. These laws are deemed unenforceable under the same 2003 Supreme court decision referenced earlier. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-oral-sex-still-illegal/

    Is it still 1623 here? Well, some folks would like it to be, it seems.
     
  20. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    Any 14 year old male can discern that his heterosexual orientation is not the same thing as the practice of heterosexual sex. Surely these are not the same.
     

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