Whatever happened to the wall?

Take 'em all - every one. I could care less.

 

Hm. Living remote from my family always seemed like a GOOD thing to me...

 

Living remote from my parents might have been a good thing - but my kids and grandkids - nah.

 

Hard to see now how the White House can get funding for The Wall after the Blue Wave. But we will see.

 

Trump is anti-immigration (unless, of course, it benefits him personally).

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html

 

sorry, no wall for you

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-latest-big-immigration-bet-looking-loser-n948981

 

I agree about hockey players but surely you want to hang on to your curlers??

 

spending bill . . . . . . . oops, no spending bill

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-border-wall-funding/index.html

 

So he supports bill cutting legal immigration in half, institutes his famous "it's not a Muslim ban" Muslim ban (by definition applying to people trying to enter country legally), lies about "anchor babies" and DV lottery winners (legal, and legal), complains about "sh*thole countries", dumps on H1B program his wife used (but not on controversial EBGC5 investor visas - Jared makes money selling these to wealthy Chinese), and keeps employing (and listening to) Stephen Miller because he's so pro-immigration? Wake up dude.

Fun fact: Polish undocumented crew doing demolition work at Trump Tower construction site was hired precisely because it was cheaper - and that is one project where Trump was famously hands on.
Also, this turd: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/#testb Start polishing.

Nothing beats supporting a "persistently illegal" President of United States, use dishonest "mind reading" demagoguery, and at the same time demanding others are "intellectually and morally honest". Keep it up.

 

"totally effective while at the same time beautiful" - - - No, he wasn't talking about me. Trump was describing his precious, mythical wall.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tweets-image-of-proposed-border-wall-totally-effective-while-at-the-same-time-beautiful

 

At least Stanislav isn't trashing your credentials like he's attempting to trash mine. I haven't quite figured that out since I never said anything against him here.

I still don't have anything negative to say about him. Except, perhaps, that me again may have been right.

 

What worries me about being anti-immigrant is that the United States overall fertility rate is significantly below replacement. The only thing that keeps us from tipping into a depopulation spiral (see Japan and Russia for instance) is immigration. Now at first blush a declining population might seem to be a good thing since it keeps a country from overcrowding. But the effect on the population pyramid is not good. Social Security and Medicare depend on younger workers to support benefits paid to older workers and that gets hard to do if there are fewer and fewer younger workers.

As a policy matter, the U.S. needs to welcome immigrants if we are to continue as a nation.

 

Besides, where will the next generation of curlers come from??

 

Delightful. Mighty Levicoff needs a buddy to attack me. Who would predict that!

I'm not trashing your credentials. You do, when you trash people pursuing degrees at the likes of Cumberlands or SATS. To the wast majority of people in the industry, you have a distance (most people would say "online") doctorate in a soft subject. At least an EdD in "Leadership" is something real schools offer, as cash cows - and students get RA doctorates, just like you. When you laugh at that, others laugh AT you, not with you. Someone needs to be your reality check, y'know?

 

You know, I don't track your political leanings, just respond to your post. The fact is this: notion that Trump is anti-immigrant, seeing how he supported Purdue-Cotton bill (among other actions), is far from controversial. Meaning, there is evidence to support it, as you well know. You might have argued against this, by bringing new evidence, or new interpretation. Instead, you chose "to flat out lie in order to get your point across", while calling others for "intellectual honesty". This is such a Trumpist move that I naturally assumed you are, in fact, a Trumpist. I sincerely apologize for that, while chuckling at the notion that "Trump supporter" is an insult now.

Now, back to Trump: I think it is fairly clear that whatever his personal position on immigration is, he is perfectly willing to support or condemn any migration, legal or illegal, as long as he things it'll boost HIMSELF in any way. However, as a public figure, President Trump is currently anti-immigrant - in policy and, especially, message. This is simply because anti-immigrant position is Trump's biggest applause line with his most devoted audience. I don't see how any of this isn't obvious.

 

The wall separating Mexico from the US is a symbol of Trumps immigration policy and it's non-existence at this point has become a symbol for his failed policies in that area. But even if you remove the wall from the discussion it's relatively easy to see that Trump is resistant to immigration in general.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-hasnt-needed-the-wall-to-remake-u-s-immigration-policy/

 

The Trump tantrum intensifies

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-to-close-border-terminate-trade-deals-cut-aid-unless-wall-is-funded