St. Regis will not be listed by UNESCO/International Handbook of Universities

Bruce,

I won't be drawn down to the level you're speaking from, but don't you think you may be doing an injustice to yourself saying things like that?

You are welcome to try and push people into "logical corners" if you can. Simply saying it doesn't count!

Regards,

John

 

If you come to a reasoned conclusion that you can get a degree with only a credit card number and a resume, then you are flaming.

I don't recall seeing many posts removed here. Spammers who post to several threads have had their stuff removed. Sometimes threads are moved to a different, more appropriate, forum. There could also be a potential for libel.

At degreeinfo, we love the truth as seen by degree mill merchants and their pathetic victims. Gives us lots to talk about.

 

Rich Douglas writes:

"Okay, let me get this straight. You won't edit or delete anyone's posts, but you have rules for posting?"

Don't you think some rules are necessary? If you find any of the four rules unfair, or unreasonable, or in favor of any party or parties in particular, please comment either here or at distancedegree.edu.pk.

You write:

"I'm dying to see what passes for "verifiable, documented evidence."

As an educated person and a writer of books you should already know the answer to that. Verifiable, documented evidence is exactly what the words mean.

You write:

"How does one flame an organization?"

You really amaze me here!!! Don't you know?

You write:

"Your four points are redundant. (Does such an observation constitute a flame?)"

So, you really don't know what flaming is. No, that's not flaming. That's simply an unfounded statement hanging up in the air. What are your grounds for making that statement?

You write:

"Any bets on how long it takes for them to ban someone?"

Here you just let your gambling inclinations take over. You presume. My answer is, just wait and see.

Regards,

John

 

Is there a doctor in the house?

I have just registered and read all the posts on this forum. I haven’t laughed so hard in ages. I am reminded of a scene from the movie Spies Like Us. At one point, the two inept spies (Chevy Chase and Dan Akroyd) posing as doctors meet several other (real) doctors. After being introduced to each other, while they are shaking hands and nodding their heads, the dialogue goes something like this:

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

”Doctor.”

The only difference is that on this forum the occasional “Professor” is thrown in for good measure.

 

John S. Dovelos wrote:

> Bruce, [...] You are welcome to try and push people
> into "logical corners" if you can. Simply saying it doesn't count!

John, perhaps you misunderstood Bruce's message. Bruce is challenging you to post to the Usenet newsgroup alt.education.distance, suggesting that the reason you don't post there is that you're afraid of being pushed into a "logical corner".

So what do you think? Take up the challenge?

Thank you for your earlier response to me.

 

John,

I noticed on your board that you stated that part of the reason you removed one post was because you believed it was libelous. I'm not an attorney, but I'm pretty sure that this exposes you to legal liability for other posts on the forum.

If it is your practice to remove statements that are libelous, then the implication is that you approve of the statements made in the posts that are allowed to remain on the forum.

If one of your users is sued for statements made on your board, you will likely be a party to that suit.

Jeff

 

Rich,

Kristin's or Kirstin's post was not even close to being the first. I don't know why you say this.

We knew from the very beginning who she was. If you insist on proof of that, I'll just ask for permission to post here the private messages we exchanged about her within the forum.

Despite that, we were very polite to her and we answered all her questions as best as we could.

The person you're referring to in your next post has not been banned. The post he wrote and which was subsequently deleted, despite my protestations (I'm not an administrator), was in fact a direct, unprovoked and unfounded attack on my person. In short, he intimated that I bought my SRU professorship. I can easily prove to anyone how I earned this professorship.

He should have first conducted a thorough search on me and my professorship, and if he had found evidence of me having actually bought my professorship, he should have presented it together with his serious accusation.


Regards,

John

 

Dennis Ruhl,

You write:

"If you come to a reasoned conclusion that you can get a degree with only a credit card number and a resume, then you are flaming."

I suppose you reach "reasoned" conclusions after a thorough research of a subject. If you present your verifiable (not imagined) evidence that actually a school awards degrees based on a credit card number and a resume, then, certainly it's not flaming.

But, if, say, I made a public statement in this forum saying that, "I have reached the reasonable conclusion that Dennis's father is a pedophile in addition to being a thief and a fraud", without presenting any evidence whatsoever, what would you think of me and my statement?

Regards,

John

 

Since professorships are (were?) offered for sale on the website, is it not an unreasonable assumption that you bought yours??

If you did not buy yours, are you a paid shill, not an unwitting victim??

 

To the Administrators,

Guys, do you really approve posts like the one by Gus Sainz above?

I thought (and still think despite Gus) that I was amongst intelligent, educated and civilized people.

All I want is to somehow urge you to use your abilities and skills (which undoubtedly you possess) to do some objective and in-depth research on the subject at hand and, then, present your unbiased, scientific conclusions. Isn't it this the purpose of this forum?

Best regards,

John

 

You most certainly are intelligent and civilized.

As far as Gus goes, he is one of the most reasonable contributors to degreeinfo.

 

Dennis,

We know from experience that people who have difficulty understanding concepts communicated to them through language, because of a possible defect or malfunction in the Broca's or Wernicke's areas of their brain, they understand better through direct experience.

I'm curious. Is this post going to be removed. If it is, why not Dennis's post as well?

Regards to all,

John

 

One of the repeated claims of the St. Regis folk is that, as the Victoria Randolph persona put it, "This 'Bear' dude used to run illegal diploma mills..."

The affiliation most often mentioned in this regard is Columbia Pacific University.

I note that this is where Dr. Dovelos earned both his Bachelor's and Master's degree.

Can't have it both ways, fellas.

Bear Dude
B.A., M.J., University of California, Berkeley
Ph.D., Michigan State University
Credentials at http://circledance.tripod.com
Publisher's site: www.degree.net

 

I was quite surprised to read on the other forum that St Regis posts doctoral dissertations on their web site. Unfortunately, it's not quite true. They post a few dissertation abstracts. However, these are very enlightening.

I highly recommend taking a look at this one:

Comparison of US Management Techniques

This is not a dissertation abstract. It is a book report. And a very poor one, at that. I believe that in most legitimate schools, this paper would be on the borderline for passing in a freshman level class. It is unoriginal, extremely poorly written, and relies on one source (and the citation for this is not even close to any standard format.)

To be fair, the other abstracts I looked at (including Mr. Dovelos') at least looked like dissertation abstracts. But that really doesn't matter, because minimum standards are what counts. And it's pretty clear exactly what those standards are.

 

I have seen many posts at your "site" that I would consider to be inflamatory statements (mostly the incorrect assessment that John Bear runs degree mills) I love the letter you posted on the other site about SRU. I want to know how is he (the SRU rep.) so certain that the goverment will be back in office by October? Plus what garuntee is there that the same people will be running the MOE after the war? Plus, what evaluation company's in the US have found a St. Regis degree to be RA equiv? I've wanted to know this for quite some time now, but not a single person has said what evaluation company has said its RA Equiv.

Just curiuos.....

 

Dr. Dovelos, it appears that a sense of humor is just one of the many things you must relinquish when publicly proclaiming that a degree from St. Regis University is a legitimate one. Honesty, ethics, and integrity are a few of the other things that readily come to mind.

It is quite obvious that Dr. Dovelos is here on a mission. His purpose is to inflame the passions of DegreeInfo members to the point that some might choose to post on his forum. If the members of DegreeInfo do not take the bait, that forum will die a quick and most ignoble death.

 

Bear Dude mentions two schools that were each shut down a year after they sued him, and wonders how long SRU will be around.

Based on the following quotation from SRU President Thomas Carper:

I'd guess "until one year from October".

 

Being the provocateur that I am, I logged on and read every post they have. I see no reason to post. They have many fictitious posters. They have a clear agenda. They have their rationalizations all set out. What purpose would it serve? Would anyone's minds change? Would more, accurate information about St. Regis or other operations come forth? I doubt it.

There is no reason such discussions cannot take place here. The forum shouldn't matter, just the ideas. But ideas aren't the point.

 

Problems in the brain areas?

Dr. John S. Dovelos, PhD, DCH, MASCH, CHT, is the Head of the Department of Psychotherapy & Counseling of St. Regis University. According to St. Regis University’s Web site, he “is currently a licensed Psychotherapist/Family Counselor in private practice in Athens, Greece.”

I have yet to see a legitimate mental health care professional use such inflammatory language to make a point. I have yet to see a legitimate mental health care professional diagnose a patient on nothing more than one or two messages posted to a public forum. And I have yet to see a legitimate mental health care professional publicly disclose their diagnosis without the patient’s consent. If you were to reside in the United States or Canada, Dennis might have a legal case against you; your behavior would be considered a violation of the Code of Ethics of any legitimate Psychotherapy or Counseling organization. You, sir, are a fraud.

 

Sorry about the language - thought I was on the St Regis Love-in forum.

Remove posts??? Why??? We like having St Regis grads here. They make us look good.