Some Arab Americans who voted for Trump are concerned about his picks for key positions

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    See you don't even remember what the reliable sources were about and said because you were not the least bit interested.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bill, always interested but doubt what the sources -sources for info are.
    Admit I don't remeber, but not because not interested.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    France says Netanyahu, Gallant have immunity from ICC charges, won’t arrest them
    Paris says that while it respects the international justice system, Israel’s leaders cannot be held accountable by The Hague as the country is not an ICC member.

    in Fiuggi, central Italy, on November 26, 2024. (Andreas SOLARO / AFP)

    France said Wednesday that provisions for immunity from prosecution at the International Criminal Court apply to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and, as such, France would not arrest him and other Israeli leaders charged by the court.

    In a statement, the French foreign ministry reaffirmed its commitment to international justice after the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and former defense minister Yoav Gallant, but also said that the Israeli leaders were covered by immunity rules that apply to states which are not a party to the ICC. Israeli is not an ICC member.

    “A state cannot be held to act in a way that is incompatible with its obligations in terms of international law with regards to immunities granted to states which are not party to the ICC,” the French statement said.


    “Such immunities apply to Prime Minister Netanyahu and other ministers in question, and must be taken into consideration should the ICC ask us to arrest them and hand them over,” it said.

    Earlier Wednesday, Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot had already said that France considered that some leaders could enjoy immunity from ICC prosecution.
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I posted two articles for discussion. Your referring to their sources for the numbers just demonstrates that you don't remember as you state. Both sources did a detailed analysis of the Hamas Department of Heath death toll numbers. They were both very detailed and long articles. The sources for both articles were rated very accurate by MediaBiasFactCheck. One was rated least bias and the other was rated extremely biased. It was extremely biased towards Israel, since it was researched and written by a pro-Israel organization. When I said you weren't interested, what I meant was that you apparently weren't interested enough to even read the articles.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I'm sure that I reviewed the posts at the time.
    I can revisit the links, I'm sure if yiu are saying fact check appraised them.
    What I don't recall is which sources they used for the info?
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I too am sure that you read the posts. We discussed the posts. What I said is "you apparently weren't interested enough to read the articles".
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/gaza-fatality-data-has-become-completely-unreliable

    While dated to late March 2024, it provides some reference to what I have been saying about the reliability of reports.

    Methods of reporting didn't change, but the #s increased since late March, as fighting in Gaza continued, yet as of late summer in reduced capacity.

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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No, they're not. Since 9/11, just over 100 people in the U.S. have been killed by jihadist terrorists. During that same period, more than a half-million Americans have been murdered over all.

    "I ain't afraid of al Qaeada. I'm afraid of Al Cracker!" -- Chris Rock
     
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  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    How many Jihadists US had in the past, and how many are now?
    You know what Political Jihad is?
    It's just a question of time, not if but when.
    Jihadists need to grow in #s to become a force.
    Like Michgan state already exhibit the therend.
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I've made my point. You can go back to making thousands of them now.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    We don't need to agree on this.
    Why since Sept 11? Why not including Sept 11.
    When thousands of Americans died from Islamists Jihadi terrorism?
    In last 25 years thousands of Americans in the US died from jihadist terrorism.
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    But the real threat to the United States is not terrorism. The real threat is Islamism, whose sophisticated forces have collaborated with some on the American Left not only to undermine U.S. national security but also to shred the fabric of American constitutional democracy—freedom and individual liberty.
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I normally ignore your posts. To actually engage you would be like Spock doing the Vulcan Mind Meld with a porcupine. But I'm going to go ahead and report this.

    I'm concerned that, like some before you, your racist and bigoted rants have become normalized. They are anything but.
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    None of my posts intend to be racist or bigoted, they intend to bring another point of view that is not popular among mostly left progressives and posters in this group.
    I always respected what you had to say, and surprised by this.
    Most of my posts are for good and unity, and for preservation of traditional values.
    Sad that traditional conservative and pro Israel and anti Jihad views seem like "Vulcan mind meld"
    I explained the difference between Muslim and Islamists, the second is radical Jihadists, like ISIS, or al-Qaida, etc.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2024 at 5:42 PM
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Believing that women being celibate is endangering family values is not a conservative view.

    The Islamophobic views are your posts most concerning to me. That is not pro-Israel nor conservative. Although the tendency for Islamophobia is probably stronger in conservative circles especially in Israel?
     
  16. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Lerner's wording now at the center of dispute is often heard from right-wing media and politicians. It relies on their using the word "Islamism" to mean "Islamic extremism."
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Now that elections behind us, like in years past, my posting in political forum will decrease and scale down.
    The war in Israel on multiple fronts and Ukraine war did take tool.
    So it's a good time to scale down on arguing in this forum.
    Peace ✌️
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I don't care about intent, except to forgive the exception. This was hardly that.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Again, I didn't mean any harm, the opposite is true.
    I did warn about radical jihadis goals.
    But as stated earlier I will scale down my posts.
    Since they appear offencive and I didn't mean to offend but to alert.
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    And perhaps given the complaints, we'll just leave it at that.
     
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