Some Arab Americans who voted for Trump are concerned about his picks for key positions

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I don't think that's the only issue. He thinks that non-violent acts are terrorism, but he's fine with Israel completely destroying residential areas. Opposite day is every day for him.
     
  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    here were
    You are deceiving yourself by calling hybrid terror bases, with rockets and bombs aimed at Israeli civilians, as residential areas, they appear as such, but they are not.
    They appear as such for people in EU and West, who fall for terrorist deceptions. Yes, people have to reside somewhere but in the very crowded area in Gaza, Hamas took advantage of it. They learned from Hezbollah, who used this tactic against Israel in the past. Imagine one of your bedrooms have rocket lounchers?
    Every school, every hospital in Gaza is a hybrid terrorist base. Indeed, many of the civilians sacrificed by Hamas are powerless against them, but also many danced and helped to attack and raping, murdering and kidnapping Israelis on Oct 7th
     
  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I'm going to trust my judgment over that of someone who thinks that celibacy is terrorism.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It's a free country and our posts are being read by other readers, celibacy is not an issue for me and never was, you never understood my points or pretending not understanding.
    On this issue, ICC is wrong, and I'm sure, not me, but very credible people will expose the biased warrants and those will be canceled.
    These are the result of hard work by Iran and its terrorist affiliates, with the help of Qatar's Al Jazeera media network.
    In Israel, there is a broad consensus regarding whether these arrest warrants are just - they know that they are not just unjust, they are scandalous.
    In the arena of world consciousness, Israel continued to choose failed conduct, and did not correct its ways during over a year.

    Bibi gov have disillusioned with the military concept, but they have not disillusioned with the international concept. The government placed a huge emphasis on internal politics designed to establish its continued rule, but ignored the international consequences and the way its moves are perceived outside the country's borders.

    After all, Iran managed to harm Israel not only in the security aspect, but also in the image aspect. It stirred the network discourse that broke out, and the international media was influenced and radicalized the way it covered Israel and framed the war.
    The anti-Israel rhetoric intensified and reached unimaginable areas that also affected the leaders of friendly countries, but beyond the indignation - Israel did not give an answer. The government did not do what was required to deal with the hostile tsunami through a strengthened, professional and invested information system.

    Alongside this, the Israeli government adopted moves that only contributed to the anti-Israeli narrative promoted by Iran.
    Ministers expressed almost daily about their desire to increase the violence in Gaza. When they repeatedly reiterated their desire to settle in Gaza, no one in the government confronted them. In the name of the tough rhetoric that should impress the electorate in Israel, senior figures in the government did not express sorrow for the civilian killing in Gaza. Why was it so difficult to put on the international message page the statement that the civilian casualties are very unfortunate? The very expression of grief would have helped and also produced headlines that present Israel in a different light, but this is almost never done.
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    When one considers women second-class citizens--or even less than that--then their choice of celibacy is actually an attack on men, taking away what is rightfully theirs.

    This is also the basis for abortion bans and attacks on birth control (for women). The idea is to restrict and punish women for having sex not with nor sanctioned by a husband.
     
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  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    This spin further shows that, distorting views of people and attributing to them wrong meanings.
    It was always visible. I never considered women as second class citizens!
    Taking out of content most of the time.

    It's like saying someone who wants to starve people actually advocating intermittent fasting.
    I have no issue with people living their lives how they want.
    Radicals who abuse the issue and use it as a form of punishment and etc is another thing, and it's a point many try to hide or ignore.

    The basis for stopping the abuse of abortion ban is saving lives of unborn children.
     
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  8. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    He is under arrest for war crimes. You are defending a war criminal. Why are you doing that?
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Because those are false accusations, and he is not a war criminal.
     
  10. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Are the ICC warrents against the Hamas leaders also incorrect then?
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Technically only an international arrest warrant has been issued by the ICC. Unfortunately he has not yet been arrested. I understand that he can no longer visit 125 countries that have a treaty with the ICC to arrest folks with outstanding warrants. The USA is not one of those countries.
     
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Glad that you've apparently finally come around to my way of thinking, at least partially. I've been saying that for months now.
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Criticizing the failure to combat enemy negative propaganda is valid, but accusing Israel of war crimes is invalid. I don't think the war length is because of political survival, it's mostly for security and survival of Israel. The government placed a huge emphasis on internal politics designed to establish its continued rule, is a factor.
    ICC accusations are biased and distorted.
     
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  14. Lerner

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  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Hamas leaders that no longer can be arrested, they were eliminated. The Hamas is a terrorist organization. Those should have been issued decades ago.
    What good are the ICC arrest order now? I'm positive the warrants will be challenged legally and canceled.
    But for now it's better if Bibi and Gallant don't travel to those countries or fly over them, as if the plane needs to make a technical stop, they can be arrested.
     
  16. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Another American veto at the UN Security Council. The American veto was the only no vote for a ceasefire in Gaza. It is sad that the USA's reputation is now being more damaged by Biden's blind support of Israel's genocide.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You are wrong about genoside, there is no such in Gaza.
    President Biden has more facts than you, and he is doing the right thing.
     
  18. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Biden is not all there.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    He is old, and it shows.
    He is still our president.
    I think we will miss him as president.
     
  20. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    With or without dementia, most politicians are going to side with our allies for as long as they can defend it. The U.S. has overlooked a lot of war crimes committed by our allies, and they have overlooked ours. The decisions are meant to be strategic, not moral. Because Biden halted sales of weapons to Saudi Arabia as soon as he took office and because he briefly halted shipments of weapons to Israel, I know that he knows this is wrong.
     
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