Some Arab Americans who voted for Trump are concerned about his picks for key positions

Which demonstrates pretty clearly that the Security Council is equally worthless in its own way.

 

I think if Iran or others could they would.
Thank God, for the US.
But when in 2003 we and our allies needed a resolution passed.
The swing voice 7 delegates were targeted. Covert operation to sway UN votes was leaked to Observer.

 

Islamist-inspired hatred against liberal democratic values are fuling these conflics.

 

Well that could work to prevent resolutions from passing. That isn't relevant to this discussion though. This discussion was about resolutions that passed.

 

It can swey resolutions to pass.
That was the reason for the operation in 2003, to make sure resolution to attack Iraq passed.

 

You really aren't making any sense at all.

So you think that the USA Ambassador to the UN has been blackmailed to not VETO all those resolutions that condemned Israel that passed? All the many Presidents of the USA just let all of those incidents slide? They never asked the many UN Ambassadors why he/she didn't vote the way they were told? And not a whisper of any of this has ever been made public. Do you really believe that??? How come so many passed if you want to really hold on to this absolutely ridiculous conspiracy theory?

 

Show me please where did I say this?
I said, thanks God, Iran can't have this power over US delegates in UN.
But there are other delegates from other state members that are influenced by Islamists.
Or by Russians, Chinese, US etc.
You proved my point that UN is biased and hostile toward Israel, what if US didn't VETO?

 

I guess your argument was that because so many resolutions condemning Israel were brought up for a vote that it proved the UN was biased against Israel. I thought you were talking about why so many passed. The resolutions can't pass unless the USA does not veto them.

What I'll say is that just because so many resolutions are brought up for a vote that condemn Israel it is not proof that the UN is biased against Israel. If these resolutions had no merit then the USA would have vetoed them. Since the USA didn't veto many it means to me that they were warranted, at least the ones that weren't vetoed.

Therefore I'd say this argument is very weak support at best for your assertion that the UN and the ICC claims of genocide in Gaza are biased and without merit.

 

Any of its five permanent members can veto a UN Security Council resolution, but no state holds veto power over a UN General Assembly resolution.

 

True, although the UN General Assembly resolutions are not binding. So the UN Security Council has more power than the UN General Assembly because their resolutions are binding . The UN Security Council is supposed to be primarily responsible for maintaining international peace and security.

 

Since its establishment, the UN has passed more resolutions condemning Israel than any other country, including regimes with abysmal human rights records like North Korea, Iran, and Afghanistan.
“The UN’s obsessive focus on Israel is both absurd and shameful,” Executive Director of UN Watch, Hillel Neuer, said.

 

That's something at least. But I wouldn't consider him an unbiased expert on this topic. For example,

Hillel Neuer
In 2017, the Algemeiner Journal selected him as one of "the top 100 people positively influencing Jewish life".[48]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillel_Neuer

Also, as you should know I'm actually a big supporter of Israel, as I am of the USA. That doesn't mean I ignore it when they do something wrong. On the contrary, I consider the USA and Israel two of the really good countries in this world and therefore hold both Israel and USA to a higher standard. Just because other countries are doing worse things, I'm not willing to accept the USA and Israel's bad deeds. The genocide in Gaza is one of those bad deeds. It also means that your argument that other countries are worse like North Korea, Iran, and Afghanistan is not convincing to me. Israel and the USA are far far better than those countries and should go by much higher standards.

 

Um. I'm not so sure the US is better. The Iraq War was illegal, unjustified, bloody, and followed by an occupation that included routine torture.

 

My cement - you are repeating false news, that there is a genocide in Gaza is false and based on false information provided by Hamas. Remeber Israeli solders died in order to prevent genoside in Gaza.

The belief that information from the Gaza Strip is reliable and practically unquestionable is one of the most absurd presumptions regarding the Israel-Hamas war across the world. In actuality, the Hamas propaganda unit is the real source of information, regardless of the source you decide to read.

You can read the statements made by those government offices, the UN reports (which always contain thanks to such spokespeople), academic or press publications that rely on this information, or some downstream. Those "reporters" don't even claim to have verified the facts, unless there are scarce instances (and the majority of those are false). Their sole attempt is to obscure the source, or worse, to regard two sources as independent without tracing the information back to the original source.

Since the Gaza Strip's free speech ranking before this war was comparable to that of North Korea, it is more reasonable to assume that Hamas viewed anyone claiming to be a journalist as an operative. It goes without saying that the Western media assumes that as long as Hamas's logo isn't displayed, it does not influence information.
Some 30,000 Hamas terrorists were killed.
By Feb 2024 there were 12,000 terrorists dead. By summer 2024 24,000 and by now 30,000+ dead terrorists/combatants.
Leaved 14,000 civilians in a year+ long war. There is no genocide.
No civilians should have died, but war was forced on Israel.
Still UN is using Hamas reports not trust wordy data.

 

I never claimed that the USA was better than Israel. The Vietnam war was also really bad. Presidents took a lot of flak for both those wars.

 

We've discussed the Gaza death count before. You were not the least bit interested in the facts as presented by reliable sources. I'm not interested in going through that complete waste of time again. There's much more supporting the conclusion of genocide than just the death rate. Something like 70% of the buildings in Gaza have been totally destroyed or significantly damaged for example. Israel is not allowing sufficient food, medical supplies and medicine into Gaza is another good example.

 

You are correct, that is why I depended heavily in my statement on the fact that the USA only vetoed about half of the resolutions condemning Israel. The USA tendency would be to veto most resolutions condemning Israel because that would normally be in our best political interest to do so. I haven't researched what the USA let pass but I do know that the USA let pass about a half dozen or so resolutions condemning the settlements being built on Palestinian land. This is a problem in Israel the far right-wing religious zealots are breaking International law by doing this. They apparently are doing it because they want to steal the Palestinian land. It's unfortunate that the Israeli government doesn't stop them. Netanyahu's current government is even made up in part by these same folks. The USA is against this because it makes a 2-state solution extremely difficult and a 2-state solution is the only practical long term peace plan. So it was in the USA's best interest to let them pass.

 

Doesn't oppose the settlers? What, are you kidding? Every Israeli government I know of SUBSIDIZED the illegal settlements.

 

Bill what you call reliable sources, they don't have access to what really happening in Gaza, they have what Hamas messangers give them.
Hamas will not let reliable sources near Gaza.