Schumer's speech

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    From my perspective the most important take away from that article is that the protestors are in general well meaning good people. We don't have to agree with all of their positions and statements but they are not out of control monsters wanting the destruction of Israel. They are not evil Iranian stooges. They are not generally under the control of Hamas or the PLO or really anyone outside the USA. They are just generally good Americans trying to do what they think is best.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    At USC, arrests. At UCLA, hands off. Why pro-Palestinian protests have not blown up on UC campuses,

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/usc-arrests-ucla-hands-off-232520415.html

    Wile

    Jewish student slams Princeton for permitting terror group flags, antisemitism on campus: 'Must be stopped'

    A Jewish Princeton University freshman recounted the virulent antisemitism he witnessed on the Ivy League campus at an anti-Israel protest encampment this week.

     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Simple

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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Bibi bad.
    Israelis good.
    Hamas (and Iran) bad.
    Palestinians good.
    Americans confused. Thus....
    Politicians torn. Hard to figure out to whom to pander.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    This is literally an End Times channel, like actually batshit insane stuff.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I realize the channel is controversial.
    But Brigitte is something else.
    This lady knows what she is talking about and she has been sounding alarm for long time now.
    Her book written in 2008 really explains what Jihad is doing to the West.
    She is very outspoken and in my opinion the protesting students should hear her.
    At least those who are mislead by the Jihadists provocatures and instigators.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I would be very surprised if any of the active protestors are reading this forum.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    They are reading what Jihadists whant them to read.
    If there were active activists for protection of Syrian civilians they would protest that too but it's not what Jihad is plotting.
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This is just conspirator thinking and that characterization is trying to be generous. The protestors are not primarily Jihadist. They are not under the control of Jihadists.

    My parents dabbled in end of the world catastrophic thinking. There has always been a part of the human population that has believed that nonsense, at least for the past few thousand years and probably since homo sapiens became a species. For your own good you really should try harder to be more rational in your thinking.
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Yet, just like those who thought that Nazis in Germany and Austria were just a conspiratorial thinking and were proved tragically wrong so in this case, the evidence is overwhelming, it's out there.

    There are whatch groups, including our federal agencies.

    https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/25728/islamist-infiltration-of-american-universities

    Since then the network expended.

    04/01/2024
    https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/65739/campus-watch-update
     
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  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

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  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I didn't really look at your worthless source. It has LOW reliability, but, even worse it is EXTREME bias. What the EXTREME bias means is that they don't tell the whole truth, only the extreme right bias point of view for a story. It will be a warped point of view of reality at best. MBFC calls it fake news. You really shouldn't be reading this kind of crap. No wonder you seem to have some crazy ideas. It is insulting to post links to it on DegreeInfo. I consider this forum above the kind of nonsense in a source like this.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-forum/
     
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  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The Middle East Forum is labeled as Islamophobia hate by multiple sources. I strongly disagree with both anti-Semitic hate and Islamophobia hate.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    As they say there is no smoke without fire. It's a fact that Hamas via/with MB are active on our campuses and it's manifested in all the antisemitic and anti Israeli actions that are on campuses for more then decade now.

    What Hamas is planning next?

    A Palestinian state wich they will takeover by force or elections or both, and turn in to advanced military against Israel.
    They will have the situation temporary return to pre Oct 7th war.
    Initual attack will be on settlements that are seen illegitimate by Eurooeans and US. Which will presure Israel not to retake it.
    And this is just a little bit of what they are planning l.
    With Iran that directly attacked Israel and doing its learning and calibration.
    Israel is strategzing on how they will prevent that.
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Sorry Lerner you have absolutely zero credibility with me. This looks like more silly conspiracy theories.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Clearly, you are missing the real picture.
    It's not what I say.
    It's the reality, you have your reasons to downplay it.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    How progressivism went mad
    A short history
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    BENJAMIN KERSTEIN
    MAR 25, 2024
    "
    I have recently written about the rise of what I believe is a form of barbaric progressivism. That is, it seems that American progressivism has concluded what is essentially an alliance with barbarism and thus become barbaric itself. As a result, it has violated all of its professed principles and embraced such monstrous ideologies as radical Islam, racialism, antisemitism, and totalitarianism. It has come to support the calculated use of political violence, terrorism, and even genocide. In academia, the one institution wholly controlled by progressivism, the movement has taken on almost every aspect of a messianic cult. It has, in other words, gone mad.

    This derangement may have been inherent in progressive ideology all along, but it is also the result of a historical process that began well over a century ago. It is worth exploring this history, if only to discover precisely how and at what point everything went off the rails."
    This author seems to pint to
    Academia that seems to be affected by this religion.
     
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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