Schumer's speech

Destiny partnership: "A new chapter has been written between Israeli and Bedouin society" Hamas terrorists spared no one on October 7: Bedouin civilians were murdered, some were kidnapped, and fighters also fell in the battles in Gaza, including Ahmed Abu Latif and Salem Al-Kharishat. "The attack did not distinguish between people, the state should not treat Bedouin society as a secondary thing but as part of Israeli society"

The fall of Salem al-Khrishat, a tracker in the northern division in the Gaza division, joined that of Ahmed Abu Latif who also fell in the battles in Gaza. The fall of the Bedouin warriors, along with the murder of Bedouin civilians and the kidnapping of others by Hamas on October 7, raised the call in the Bedouin society in the Negev for a true partnership between Jews and Bedouins.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/columbia-protest-leader-grateful-m-182800144.html

Columbia protest leader: ‘Be grateful that I’m not just going out and murdering Zionists’

 

Good! That is a good start at doing the editor's fact checking job on a real news source. Now to make it reasonable news we need to verify the date for the video of 2017 and the English translation is accurate.

 

Asked a friends who is Israeli Arab to view the clip, he resides in Nazareth, IS so may not get response till much later.
But based on other videos on the channel, I have seen them (such as kidnapped Israeli/American parents interview) and they are authentic.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-amasses-dozens-tanks-armored-134437015.html

Israel amasses dozens of tanks, armored vehicles along border with southern Gaza Strip
Associated Press Videos

The Israeli military has amassed dozens of tanks and armored vehicles along its border with the southern Gaza Strip, in what appears to be preparations for an invasion of the border city of Rafah. (AP video by Shlomo Mor)

 

I bet we paid for those tanks. Hope they like them.

 

Actually, no, US didn't pay for those tanks.
Those tanks are made in Israel.
But it's possible that the munitions inside the tanks are paid by the US.
I'm told that the way it works, it's like credit, Israel gets aid in a form of credit and has to buy only from the US, to use the aid provided.
The money goes to US defense industry. So if F35s provided, the aid money paid for it.
Israel makes their own Merkabah tanks.

 

That video just spews hate and misinformation. Yes Hamas is a horrible terrorist organization. Yes October 7 was an inexcusable terrorist attack. Yes I wish all Hamas leaders could be eliminated. But that video is doing exactly what it accuses the protestors of doing. It is just spewing hate and painting all the protestors as anti-Semitic Hamas loving people. It has zero news worthy value except to demonstrate how Hannity can stir up the base but can't report any news.

The main point of the protestors is that too many civilians have been killed in Gaza. Netanyahu is not destroying Hamas he's only making the next generation of Palestinian terrorists to be more angry and a larger group.

 

I think Deshovitz made good points and see same warning signs.
The politics aside, I see how this is used to attack administration.
But the protests are way out of controll.
Syria killed 500,000 people.
No protests.
You see how Hamas and Iran manipulate the campus HATE protests geared on hurting support of Israel survival based on misinformation, Hamas is 100% responsible.
Bibi tried to contain Hamas and failed but it was Hamas and IJ who attacked Israel, not Bibi.
No one expects Israel to be bombed with 1000s of rockets daily.
Liberman was right in 2014 Israel should have continued then, destroyed Hamas.
Now it has no other way but to destroy Hamas military and other control in Gaza.
Israelis will vote in next elections.
Civilians die in wars, wars are horrible.

 

We may not agree with much of what some of the protestors have said. That doesn't mean they are way out of control. They are primarily peaceful, especially protests organized by students. It is beyond silly in my opinion to call peaceful protests as being out of control.

Apples and oranges, death and destruction in Gaza has been daily news here in the USA for the past 6 months not so for Syria. Much more important is that the USA is a strong supporter of Israel. It can be reasonably argued that the USA bares some responsibility for what is happening in Gaza.

Netanyahu was responsible for Israeli security on October 7. He failed miserably. The activities in Gaza are NOT destroying Hamas. Those activities are only making Hamas stronger for the long term. Those are Netanyahu's activities. He's the one responsible. IDF admits they've failed in killing any Hamas leaders. It is a military disaster and a political disaster. On October 7 the world supported Israel and were disgusted by Hamas. He's managed to destroy Israel respect around the world in the past 6 months. Netanyahu is a horrible leader, IMHO.

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It is a huge L to agree with the Dersh. To point to Syria and say somehow these protests are unjustified because there were not protests for that then you are missing the forest for the trees. If you want a good analysis, try Norm Finkelstein.

 

Freedom of speech is about the content of one's speech. It is NOT about the venue or one's conduct. You don't get a free pass on committing crimes simply because those crimes are conducted in the enabling of your speech.

You don't get to rob a bank and get away with it because you were shouting your political views while holding it up.

Similarly, you don't get to trespass, assemble illegally, commit vandalism, etc. simply because you're making a political point.

Look around you. If you otherwise follow the law, you can say pretty much anything you want. (There are a few forms of speech--like slander--which remain illegal.) But if you break the law, you should be dealt with just like any other person committing the same act. Your purpose is irrelevant.

 

I dont think the overwhelming majority of protesters are commuting crimes, and those that are being committed like trespassing and vandalism, which are pretty minor in comparison with bank robbery. The protests are mostly peaceful, with violence breaking out mostly from the escalation due to police and the national guard.

Many protests with these forms of non-violent, “illegal” activities have been held through the history of the US from the revolution to civil rights. It is a part of the American way to place a check on the government, and always has been.

More important than the portrayal of the protests is the content of them. They are fighting, with very clear goals of making the University, that they pay for, to divest from specific companies due to their implication in the Palestinian genocide.

 

It seems to me that the protestors are having some difficulties in laying out what they want. When the Vietnam war protests were happening it was much simpler. The protestors could just say pull out of Vietnam. Unfortunately for these protestors this is not nearly so simple, since the USA isn't in Gaza. It would be a simpler message to just protest against the USA support of Israel. I'll guess that they know that ain't happening and via social media they've settled on these other things. It will be interesting to see if they actually achieve any success on that. What they have been successful at is getting media attention and getting many Republicans to start their hair on fire, as Lerner's video demonstrates. At the same time Democrats are concerned about Biden getting the needed percentage of younger voters.

I actually find the whole thing fascinating as well as amusing.

 

Yitzhak Barik is voice of reason and been alerting Israelis for years.

Published in Haaretz newspaper
20:00 • April 25, 2024
The public did not pay enough attention to the fact that the group at the political and military level that failed and is directly responsible for the October 7 disaster, continues its corrupt conduct and continues to control the army and the country without a time limit.
The senior command in the IDF, which bears direct blame for the disaster, appoints the next generation of the senior command, in his image and likeness, even though some of the appointed people bear direct and comprehensive blame for the terrible failure. And if that is not enough - the senior command decides to investigate itself, So that his severe failures will not be exposed. The senior IDF and the political echelon continue to fight the war until the end in order to keep the memory of the events of October 7 away from them. They cling to the horns of the altar with all their strength and strengthen their control - for their survival.
Already today they are conducting themselves as if nothing had happened: there is no learning and application of lessons, and there are no discussions in the cabinet and the government on the formulation of a strategic policy in the field of security for the short term and the long term. They continue with the same military plans formulated before the war: buy new planes for 14 billion dollars, and neglect all other means of warfare on land. After all, in a few years the planes will not be relevant on the battlefield, because they will be replaced by unmanned aircraft and missiles. The whole world already understood this a long time ago. This is already happening in the Ukraine-Russia war and with our enemies who are fighting us. And despite this, the lesson, which is also the main lesson from the current war, is not being applied - the land army is not being increased, with the exception of establishing new units here and there, a drop in the sea.

 

Here's an opinion piece written by a Jewish Yale student that is active in the current protest movement.

Opinion: I’m a Jewish student at Yale. Here’s what everyone is getting wrong about the protests
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/27/opinions/yale-student-palestinian-protests-berlin/index.html

 

I took time to actually read it.
And understand what he is talking about.
I pattrly agree and partly think he misses it.
For ceasefire would be right to see all hostages freed.
Many of the protesters range from pro Hamas , and for destruction of Israel to those who are for stoping the war and civilian catualties.

But the Hipocricy in my humble opinion is sky rocketing, be it what is going on in Sudan or Syria. That you somehow dismiss as not relevant, I think it's actually deserves major protests. But Noone is showing the suffering and promoting protests among the student body.
While no protests, but Israel defending it self generates out of proportion protests.
The only reason these wild fires are spreading are because of the decades of activity of Muslim Brotherhood and their collaborators poison minds of students in most Universities. Many from some Islamic countries funding it.
Just like when Russians/Soviets and Cmunists instigated and inflamed such protests in the past. KGB pulled the strings and recruited many "revolutionaries" at the time. Some radicalized students later became professors and administrators.

 

https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/25728/islamist-infiltration-of-american-universities