Saint Regis University---need HELP!

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  1. nobycane

    nobycane New Member


    I am sure that your intentions are good...........however, let me put it in the simplest scenario as possible here:

    I am working towards to be able teach Mathematics in a public school disctrict.....um-kay!!!!

    I hold an Associates OF Arts from an accredited Community College.......and a Bachelor Of Science in Business Admin from OSU.......um-kay!!!!!!!!

    I recently enrolled to Excelsior College (Regents) to complete another Bachelor Degree in Mathematics.......(which I have to complete 5 classes and then I done!)

    Um-Kay!!!!!!!!!

    According to the State OF Florida's Dept Of Education.......in order for me to be able to teach in the state of Florida, this is their "requriements":

    Degrees, programs, and credits shall be determined acceptable for educator certification purposes based on the following:
    (1) Accredited institutions. Degrees and credits awarded by an institution of higher learning accredited by one (1) of the accrediting associations listed below shall be acceptable for educator certification purposes. (a) Regional accrediting associations. The regional accrediting associations are as follows:

    1. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools,

    2. The Middle States Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools,

    3. The New England Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools,

    4. The North Central Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools,

    5. The Northwest Association of Secondary and Higher Schools, and

    6. The Western Association of Colleges and Schools.

    (b) Accrediting agencies approved by the United States Department of Education

    (2) Nonaccredited approved institutions. A non-accredited approved institution of higher learning shall be identified as having a quality program resulting in a bachelor's or higher degree by one (1) of the following criteria:

    (a) The institution is accepted for certification purposes by the state department of education where the institution is located,

    (b) The institution holds a certificate of exemption pursuant to Section 246.085(1)(b), Florida Statutes,

    (c) The institution is a newly created Florida public college or university that offers a bachelor's or higher degree program,

    (d) The institution is located outside the United States and awards a degree that is the equivalent to a bachelor's or higher degree awarded by an accredited or approved institution in the United States. Isolated credit will be acceptable for certification purposes provided the credit is the equivalent of college credit earned in the United States, or

    (e) The degree from the institution was accepted by an accredited or approved institution either in transfer or as a basis for admission into the graduate program which resulted in the conferral of a higher degree

    3) Highest acceptable degree level of training.

    (a) The highest degree which has been awarded by an accredited or approved institution as described in Subsections (1) and (2) of this rule, shall be recognized for certification. The degree level shall be determined by the criteria listed below.

    1. Bachelor's degree. An earned bachelor's degree, such as the bachelor of arts, bachelor of science, or bachelor of education degree which normally required four (4) years of higher education; or a foreign degree that required sixteen (16) years of combined pre-university and university education; or a foreign degree that has been evaluated by an education credential evaluation agency or an accredited or approved institution as the equivalent to a bachelor's degree from an institution as described in Subsections (1) and (2) of this rule shall be recognized as the bachelor's degree level of training.

    2. Master's degree. An earned master's degree or an earned advanced bachelor's degree of a professional nature, such as library science, in combination with an earned four-year bachelor's degree; or a post-bachelor's foreign degree that required at least five (5) years of higher education; or a foreign post-bachelor's degree that has been evaluated by an education credential evaluation agency or an accredited or approved institution as the equivalent to a master's degree from an institution as described in Subsections (1) and (2) of this rule shall be recognized as the master's degree level of training.

    3. Specialist in education degree. An earned sixth-year post-master's level degree in education, such as specialist in education degree shall be recognized as the specialist's degree level of training.

    4. Doctor's degree. An earned academic or professional doctor's degree, or an earned Bachelor of Laws (LLB) or higher law degree granted by an institution of higher learning in the United States, or a foreign doctor's degree that required at least seven (7) years of higher education, or a foreign doctor's degree that has been evaluated by an education credential evaluation agency or an accredited or approved institution as the equivalent to a doctor's degree from an institution as described in Subsections (1) and (2) of this rule, shall be recognized as the doctor's degree level of training.

    (b) A certificate, diploma, or other award shall not be recognized as an earned degree

    SO.........basically, SRU doesn't fall anywhere in these guidelines........Though, Excelsior College (Regents), Thomas Edison State College & Charter Oak State College does!!!!!!!! Just food for thought!!!!!!!


    If I want to teach in Florida, my degree(s) need to meet these guidelines according to the Dept Of Education. Which in this case, Excelsior College does.......and will benefit me in the long run and not blow up in my face!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: I neglected to add...

    Your HR director was probably just uninformed or possibly simply decided to turn a blind eye? Hopefully you won't need it in a different job or after a regime change in your current job.
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: I neglected to add...

    I have good reason to believe either could be the case. HR folks don't know and don't care.
     
  4. plumbdog10

    plumbdog10 New Member

    There is no U.S. policy, it varies from employer to employer, and school to school. I would, however, doubt that any RA school would accept that degree for admissions. I also think that most employers would be suspect of a distance learning degree from Liberia. Wouldn't you be?
     
  5. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I wonder if anybody (Rich? others?) has ever done research on employer or academic reactions to legitimate foreign degrees by country? Does credential verification supersede such reactions as, say, a degree from Niger is prestigious and a degree from Chad is OK, but a degree from Burkina Faso is suspect and a degree from Mauretania will get you deported to Oregon?
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Both John and I have. His has been discussed at great length. Mine has had a few points brought out.

    Neither of us made distinctions between schools from different countries, however. Except he separated out the Caribbean factor.
     
  7. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    I just heard from a registrar who attended their convention in Washington this week, and went to visit the world headquarters of NBOE, the prestigious organization to which St. Regis belongs, in Washington.

    He says it was not even one of the large rental boxes at Mail Boxes Etc., but one of the smallest ones they have.
     
  8. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    I'm sure the mail box is large enough to accomodate checks and money orders from unsuspecting students. NBOE's bank account is definitely much larger!
     
  9. kansasjayhawk

    kansasjayhawk member

  10. jouster

    jouster New Member

    Well, whatever you feel about St. Regis's merits (or, in my opinion, distinct lack of them) you can at least now walk around nattily attired in their latest campus fashions!

    Might be a little unfair on Slippery Rock U., a _genuine_ Pennsylvanian University...

    Apologies if this has already been noted. I'm new here, and the search seems to be funky today.
     

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