Saint Regis University---need HELP!

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  1. sammyspade

    sammyspade member

    Any one know anything about this place. Claims to be incorporated in Dominica, legally allowed to grant degrees from there, recognized and accredited by the education ministry in Liberia as an institute of higher education and allowed to grant degrees in Liberia, with a "physical" presence in Liberia, and also recognized by the Minisistry of Education from the Russian Federation as a branch university of International *something-or-other* University (can't remember the name), and THAT university clams to be a member of MMC International Interacademic Union, which is recognized by UNESCO (SAINT REGIS also claims to be listed with UNESCO, but all I saw was a listing for their web page on UNESCO's "Interesting sites" schools web page. SAint Regis IS listed with HEIR (UNESCO), but I don't know if that means anything. Any one know ANYTHING about SAINT REGIS UNIVERSITY, and whether or not their degrees are legit and verifiable by NACES member evaluators as an institution coming from Liberia? PLEASE HELP!!!!:confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  2. steeler

    steeler New Member

    Just make a search for "Saint Regis" and I'm sure you'll find quite a lot of info on it.
     
  3. sammyspade

    sammyspade member

    I have done a great deal of research on this school, and while it all sounds legit, I just want to makes sure from outside sources. I have asked for some opinions from NACES member evaluation services, and got one that said, basically, that without the credentials, they could not be sure (aka send us the documents, pay us, and we'll tell you).
    I plan on calling the Liberian embassy as the webpage says, and also try to verify a few other ways, if possible. I guess what I am looking for is for comments from anyone who knows ANYTHING for sure as far as legitimacy of the school, and if there are any graduates out there who have actually had there degrees tranfer to the US through being evaluated by a NACES member service. Any comments from Saint Regis graduates and there experiences would also be welcomed.

    Hey steeler, the STEELERS ROCK!!!\

    Thanks all!
     
  4. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    sammyspade,
    If I were an employer evaluating your eduation and experience at an interview, I'd most likely question the source of your education. If you decide to go with Saint Regis U., you run the risk of being turned down.
    There are numerous unaccredited colleges and diploma mills that call Dominica/Liberia their home.
    My suggestion: go with a regionally accredited distance learning college.
    regards,
     
  5. steeler

    steeler New Member

    You're right Sammy, the Steelers do rock! :D Have you searched the forums for Saint Regis? Just run a search and you'll find quite a few posts on the subject. Many have asked the same questions before.
     
  6. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    I suspect that Liberian accreditation is going to become legendary in academic circles, leading to rejection of legitimate academic programs by other schools. I hope those in Liberia who are cashing the cheques understand this.
     
  7. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

  8. sammyspade

    sammyspade member

    Any other comments? Anyone know anything more?

    thanks!
     
  9. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hmm... I must confess I am more than a little confused. You state you have done significant research on St Regis. You then, of course, understand it is a degree mill. This is where my confusion comes in to play. Why would anyone consider a degree mill with some many fully accredited legitimate schools and programs available?
     
  10. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    I believe that you've already gotten your answer. Considering that it's a degree mill, what more would you want to know?
    Jack

    BTW, Dave - what's the weather like there in the T of L?;)
     
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  11. BobC

    BobC New Member

    I think his real question is that this Liberia thing is a bit of an oddity and slightly loopholish because technically it is "accredited" by their real Dept. Of Education or whatever they call it. And Liberia for the most qualifies more as a real country than say some pigeon island with it's 1000 inhabitants and most of those are non-human to boot. What would really happen if push came to shove and a Liberia degree holder tried to get equivalency based on the fact it **is** accredited by the Liberia Dept. Of Education. Seems Liberia is a Dept of Education rogue state at the moment and on the surface seems a better option than those Malawiwiwiwiwi or straight Dominican/Carribbean degrees. This is all assuming Saint Regis and Concordia et. al. are telling the truth in the first place and such accreditation exists, wouldn't surprise me if that was all a lie too.
     
  12. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Liberia is a country known for its scams. For $100 I could get them to accredit my cat. Does anyone think that all employers/schools don't already know this? Come to think of it Bella University does sound pretty good!:D
     
  13. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    We are a group of international business people and we want to park $1,000,000 in your bank account and we will let you have 10 %. To show your good faith could you advance us $10,000.

    Sorry - that's Nigeria - not Liberia.

    Outside of South Africa there is not much credibility in African institutions.
     
  14. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    According to Bears' Guide, The Australian calls it a "Dominica-based Internet degree mill."

    I could be wrong, but I don't think that has the ring of an endorsement. Probably best to avoid it.



    Tom Nixon
     
  15. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Makerere was good (maybe is, if they can come up with money to keep it open).
     
  16. sammyspade

    sammyspade member

    Mr. Hayden, the reason for the post was to FIND OUT if it was a diploma mill. After all the reasearch, I found that it is recognized by Liberia, but wanted to find out if this "accreditatation" meant anything. BobC hit the nail on the head (thanks, buddy!)

    I was also looking to see if there were any "alumini" out there from St. Regis, and their experiences, or if any one knew of any NACES memebers positively evaluating this degree. It would seem that U.S. policy overall is to accept degrees from counties in which the Ministry of Education recognizes the degree, whether it is a "rogue" nation or not.

    Thanks again all! Keep the dicussion up! (I am looking into Capella and NorthCentral U. at this time. Just got caught up by the "get-degree-quick-that-is-country-accredited" scheme--will be reading Dr. Bear's new post "Liberian accreditation for sale...." et.al.)
     
  17. sammyspade

    sammyspade member

    I guess the MAIN thing I was wondering was whether or not these degrees are LEGAL or not (title being able to be used, etc. etc. etc.). I'm not interested in getting into a discussion of "scam", "diploma mill", etc. These areas seem to be established in the minds of those on this thread. That aside, are the degrees LEGAL?

    What say you, Dr. Bear?
     
  18. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Mr Sammy

    In your last two posts you totally contradict yourself. First you state it is your goal, after significant research, to find out if St Regis is a Mill. Then you say your don't care if it is a Mill if it is legal.

    If you have done ANY research at all on St. Regis, it is clearly the worst of the worst. Calling it a Mill is probably being unfair to K-W and other such institutions.

    Secondly, why would any one want a degree from a Mill or anything close to a Mill?! Do you believe you are incapable of real academic work? Is there some other legitimate reason?!

    Good grief man! Get a real degree not a time bomb waiting to happen!
     
  19. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    If you're looking for a foreign education, you may want to look at the UK schools or Athabasca University in Canada. Degrees from these institutions follow GAAP accreditation policies and have international recognition. A St. Regis degree will not give you any credibility....in fact if your employer finds out, you may lose your job...........
    A high school graduate with 2 to 5 years of work experience will receive more recognition than a recent St. Regis U. graduate.
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Liberia is a civil war torn country with almost no real government control or services left. Apparently the best way to make a living is through graft and corruption for some of the government officials hence the recent surge of degree mills claiming "accreditation" from Liberia that are out in the market right now.

    It should be a big red warning flag when a school is not claiming accreditation from their local jurisdiction but is instead claiming accreditation (of probably little to no value) from another country, especially if that country is small with no significant system of higher education in place in that country.
     
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