Saint Regis University---need HELP!

I, on the other hand, have always enjoyed schoolwork. Sometimes it's diificult to find the time but the work itself never seems to be a bother.
Jack

 

Please re-read the thread and try to disregard the back-and-forth personal comments. This school is to be avoided. There are most certainly a large number of alternate suggestions, some of them located in Africa, that would be a far better choice. If you can say specifically which sort of degree you are seeking then you will receive many suggestions on how (and where) it might be earned. Good luck,
Jack

 

There is a Yahoo Group dedicated to African DL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/africa_distance_education/

(As with most Yahoo Groups, this one is not very active. But not totally moribund either.)

 

Jack,

I guess the actual learning doesn't bother me, but I guess it is finding the time. I just hate to write (but I've been told by those who know better that I write well and should do more of it...).

Got some more e-mail back from some NACES members--same thing--avoid Saint Regis! For those who are confused (as I was also--the Liberian accreditation confuses), let me repeat:

AVOID SAINT REGIS LIKE THE PLAGUE!!! IT IS NOT RECOGNIZED BY EXPERTS AND ACADAMIA AS A TRUE INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION!!!

OK, that being said, I should also make a comment about the apparent digression of this thread about pro and con African education. The thread was originally set up to be a sounding board and to gather information about Saint Regis and its legitimacy, NOT to be a back-and-forth fight about African accreditation. There are some excellent institutions in African, even in Liberia (The University of Liberia was, and is, trying to rebuild even today). Please keep the uncharitable comments and back-and-forth to yourselves. It is so unbecoming!

That being said, again, thank you all. Still shopping for the right doctorate program (I've decided I'd like to be "Dr. Such-and-Such"), but haven't decided what field--either psychology, human services, or an administrative aspect within this field [human services]. A lot of good, cheap Masters programs out there, though!

Thanks again!

sammyspade

 

Thanks for the information.

I do not know whether it is the Yahoo factor accounting for little activity or whether African DL has not yet attracted enough enthusiasts.

What I had in mind was a forum along degreeinfo lines, including dedication to fight the inevitable disinformation onslaughts.

Regards,

Opherus

 

I suppose there are many of us who would not be undertaking certain courses if they were devoid of challenge. I feel greater satisfaction on completing a difficult program.

Opherus

 

Of course the work is a huge bother, but so is the silly glee in getting it done.
As to African DL, if I'm going to spend my tuition money overseas, I'd rather spend it where the $ will help support financially struggling unis, not where it's just more gravy. More importantly, the African perspectives are more interesting to me as a matter of personal taste. Since I don't know much about that, it would be, in a sense, two educations for the price of one.

 

Evaluation Companies

There is an evaluation company out there that i won't name that will give you credit for a degree from St. Regis. My company (which is not a member of NACES, but is a member of NAFSA) is currently being asked to evaluate degree's from the school. We recently recieved a fax from the Embassy of Liberia stating that the school is recognized, and we have to offer them service. I do not agree with that statment and i doubt our Senior evaluators are either.

just my 2 cents..

michael

 

Re: Evaluation Companies

What a great opportunity for your company to confirm its credibility.

 

Re: Evaluation Companies

Michael, if your company isn't a NACES member, what is your company's weight in the U.S. with regards to offering evaluations? e.g. How far does a NAFSA only membership take you? Where are your evaluations being accepted in addition (I presume) to NACES member's evals ? Are you seeing US RA schools accept transfer credit for St. Regis degrees?

Thanks.

 

NAFSA only

Several companies and institutions take our evaluations.

Several School districts, and colleges along with Immigration accept our evaluations. Of course there are some we can't do also, like The Professional Architects Board in California. If you would like to see a longer list I can send it via e-mail.

I have yet to see a St. Regis degree. Though I have seen a few people send in Mill degree's to be evaluated, and be turned down.

I'm not certain how our evaluations compare to NACES evaluations, but I know of at least one instance where someone with a NACES eval was told it wasn't acceptable and had to use my company. Outside of that your guess is as good as mine.



Michael

 

NACES Evaluation

I checked with NACES about St Regis degrees. They will evaluate them and provide a report for about $75 base cost. However, the evaluation will indicate that a St Regis degree is "equivalent to other alternatively accredited US degrees" which does not sound like RA equivalency to me! Therefore, I'm not sure what value a NACES evaluation would add for those contemplating this route.

 

intersting

One of my evaluators was at a NASFA meeting recently and one of the speakers who works/owns a NACES evaluation firm said their company will not evaluate St. Regis diplomas. My company is taking the stance of sending the business else where. We are not comfortable with doing evaluations for St. Regis degree holders.

 

Carl, NACES itself does not do evaluations, as you claim. Do you mean a NACES member does the evals, and if so, who? What does "alternative" accreditation mean? There is no "alternative accreditation" in the US--the institution is either accredited or isn't ("state recognized" is NOT accredited). I was told by many NACES member evaluators a while back that none did evals for St. Regis. However, I am beginning to wonder, if the Embassy of Liberia sent an eval company a letter confirming St. Regis as legitimate, if the school MAY be in fact legit! Very intersting. If so, I take back all I've said negative about St. Regis.

 

St. Regis

My company did recieve a letter from the Ministry of Education of Liberia. They claim the school is fully recognized yadda yadda. and that we have to do the evaluations because UNESCO says we have to yadda yadda yadda.... We still won't do their evals.

 

Reply to Sammy on NACES

Sammy,
You are right in that it was a NACES affiliate, one of the charter members, who said they would evaluate a St. Regis degree. However, I do not think you need to worry about "taking back all that you have said negatively" about St. Regis in the past! The evaluator essentially said they would charge for the evaluation, and would issue a statement saying that the degree was NOT equivalent to a US RA degree, but rather equivalent to other alternately accredited US institutions - some of which are undoubtedly diploma mills. They also said that they knew all about NBOE and how the only criteria for "accreditation" is a $50,000 initial fee, followed by a $20,000 annual renewal - no other criteria (such as quality of education, facilities, faculty on board, etc.) is required beyond the $$$...

Hope this clears it up?

Thanks for your comments!
- Carl

 

SAINT REGIS UNIVERSITY IS LEGITIMATE!!!

No, Carl, I will be eating crow. I am now quite certain that Saint Regis is recognized by the Ed. Minister in Liberia, and that NBOE is not "recognizing" universities, but "accrediting" them. The problem has come in where universities claim NBOE recognition, and to be branch campuses of Saint Regis. The Ed. Ministry in Liberia is the ONLY authority in Liberia that recognizes schools, colleges and universities in Liberia, and I believe has become very upset with rampant "Liberian recognition". Saint Regis also states, as I understand it, that they do not have "branch campuses", but own all entities claiming "branch" affiliation. However, the "branch" campuses refuse to take down their websites, claim affiliation with Saint Regis, and this takes away St. Regis's credibility. There is only ONE Saint Regis, Saint Regis IS recognized by the Minister of Education in Liberia, and NBOE merely "accredits". It would be helpful if NBOE would put up their accreditation standards. NBOE facilitates recognition by the education ministry in Liberia, (does paperwork, takes moneys)and the Minister of Education has the final say (and this may be where the standards come in to play). If the Education Minister turns an institution down (which I believe has happened), then NBOE refunds all monies, and the school is denied accreditation AND recognition. Kinda screwy, but it ain't the US. Liberia is trying to jumpstart its economy and education system, and this, I believe, is how it is trying to do it. So, the NBOE is recognized as operating Saint Regis University, and Saint Regis is recognized by the Education Minister to offer online degrees. I have also seen other things that will offer credence to Saint Regis's legitimacy, but I am not at liberty to discuss. All of this has been told to me by reliable sources who wish to remain nameless, and from third person sources, at that. So, I apologize to all Saint Regis people out there--I was wrong. I recant everything negative I have written on this thread. Of course, it is ultimately up to people to make there own decision. This, is, by the way, no endorsement of Saint Regis University, but merely an apology. Now, if you don't mind, I need to eat my crow. Hot sauce, anyone?

[I have no idea about Concordia and the NBOE, though]

Mringer: You're company is not NACES? Will it become NACES affiliated?

Carl: Was the NACES service you're talking about perhaps the oldest one in existence, more than 30 years old? (Don't name it, just answer yes or no). When did you find this out. I only ask because I thought I was told no by this company. Do remeber if it was recently (March), or eralier (early February, late February, etc.) Thanks!

 

more st. regis

Below is the who is for St. Regis and for NBOE. Same people, same hosting company. Seems fishy to me. Besides, if this was my school I would not be hiding behind screens saying that my school is legitimate I would be actively participating in this forum.

Just my 2 cents......

Michael

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Michael, St. Regis is OWNED by NBOE, so of course they will be the same. St. Regis's old country WAS Dominica (with recognition there also), but now resides in Liberia, with recognition there from the MOE. I looked at the "who is" before also--it proves nothing, IMHO.

 

St. Regis

Where just pulling teeth at this point, but imho, it seems odd to me that the school is owned by the same people that gave the school their accredidation.
Plus, they aren't exactly in Libia, they are in Washington DC.

And, this is the last that I will post on this subject.