Saint Regis University---need HELP!

"Console General"

At http://www.saintregisedu.org/Accreditation.htm it says:

"For verification of legal authority to grant degrees you may contact:
The Embassy of Liberia
First Secretary Console General
Abdulah K . Dunbar
5201 16th Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20011
(202) 723-0437"

Note that this is not a "Consul General" but a "Console General". Is it, perhaps, a console for an old Data General computer? Or maybe anyone who thinks a Saint Regis University degree might be a good idea needs consolation.

 

At different times on these pages, everyone and every country has come under critcism.

No I did not do my homework. I punched "Tanzania" and "corruption" into a search engine and got 61,400 responses. I used the first one.

For what it's worth, I do suspect that Tanzania is on the lower end of the corruption scale.

To suspect one's motives when they criticize the myriad of corrupt governments in Africa is truly amazing.

African people suffer under the corruption and I even voiced a concern that selling accreditations would negatively affect thousands of people with legitimate Liberian degrees.

My totally free advice for 90 % of African nations is to hold some free elections and jail some corrupt politicians and civil servants.

Until then don't be surprised if you hear more comments like my own. They are common comments among the people of Africa. Sorry for noticing.

 

It is not the difference of opinion that triggered my reaction. One of the things I do when I am not learning is teaching, which involves provoking diverse opinions.

The interesting fact is that when we have, say, an American diploma mill approach someone in Liberia with the sort of result that we have seen, we tend to overlook the fact that there are two parties involved. The American (say) factor and the Liberian factor.

The issue of diploma mills, a major focus of this forum, predates the Liberian and Malawi factors.

Also appreciate that many (I have not said all) of the large scale business corruption cases in African countries involve companies that have roots outside (eg check out the current investigations regarding a major electricity project in Uganda) and some individual in the African country, i.e. an institution from a developed country and an individual from an underdeveloped country. ... Talk about integrity of institutions ...

I am not a politician and I would be the last to say there is no corruption in this part of the world. We probably have more than our fair share.

I may have misread your initial post but I believe you talked about institutions and NOT Government institutions. Your statement was a broad brush denigration of institutions in Africa, with the exception of SA. The focus on African politicians is a modification of the initial position.

Do not 'apologise for noticing'. Refine the output.

Some issues do not have immediate remedies.

What is your advice on getting rid of all diploma mills in our midst so that they can longer approach greedy African politicians?

Opherus

 

Play it again Sam. (Sorry, the Humphrey Bogart connection could not be ignored).
If you set yourself up as a target (a devils advocate) you're going to take a few shots. Don't give up on African degree programs just yet although I'd advise you to not champion their cause until AFTER you've done the homework. Good luck in any case,
Jack

 

Janko-
“but since you have played the race card I will defer to you.”

Timmy Ade- I sincerely wish you did not throw race into this. So I am playing the race card just for telling people who I am?. How is Playing the race card relevant to this anyway?. Your comments would have been a lot more honorable if you hadn’t said that.

African Timmy de Americana

 

Timmy:

You used a racial identifier to "credential" what you had to say. Nobody else on this thread brought race into it, kid. Nobody. Not Dennis. Not Roy. Not Jack. Not Opherus. Not Dave.
Not Sammy. Not Bill. Not me.

Just you.

Also, my boy (for I gather from your nickname that you are but a callow stripling), questioning the honor of one's elders is a most un-African thing to do. Perhaps when you grow up your manners will improve.

Oh. One more thing.

Where's the list?

Uncle Janko

 

Perhaps Egypt might be another another exception to the African continent generalization but I'd be interested in being corrected since I seem to have a similar opinion on this as Dennis. Please provide some enlightenment, it really would be appreciated.

 

Here's more info for those who would like to get degrees from Saint Regis University:

I have written to all of the NACES members, except 1 (no e-mail), and heard back from 7 today; 2 declined response ("...submit fee and we'll evaluate it..."), and 5 wrote back a resounding "They are a diploma mill", 2 specifically saying that they would decline to evaluate documents from Saint Regis. So there you go!

If NACES members won't evaluate, the degrees are WORTHLESS!!!

Jack, no problem! Yes, I set myself up to get pasted. But all in good fun, right? Thanks for the good wishes, I'll need them. I want to further my education, but, boy, I hate to go back and do school work...

Peace, all!

sammyspade

 

Yeah I emailed SDR Eval Svcs and they never responded to me, it's been over 2 days now. I emailed a few others and they never responded either.

 

I did get a response from SDR Eval Svcs (it's still in my e-mail box), and they said that these degrees ARE equivelent to RA degrees in US. I don't think SDR Eval Svcs is an NACES member however.

Sammyspade

 

Jacko or is it Janko? Anyway whatever it is your own ignorance is beyond redemption. I will leave you to thrive in arrogance in so much ignorance. (What a waste) You are henceforth ignored till eternity. I have better things to do with my time.


Sir Timmy Ade. de Africana.

 

WHERE'S THE LIST?

 

Bill,
There are some good Universities in Africa (out of South Africa) For example The seven premier Universities in Nigeria (there are about 50-60 universities in Nigeria now) namely:
University of Ibadan, (founded in 1948 as a College of the University of London)
University Lagos
Obafemi Awolowo University (formerly University of ife)
University of Nsuka
Amhadu Bello University
University of Jos, and the University of Benin. These are all World Class Universities that actively participate in international faculty exchange programs. Medical, accounting and law students with degrees from these universities often performed well in professional certification exams (here in the US) like State Bar & CPA exams.

Similarly you can go to Ghana where we have Universities of Ghana, Cape coast and Kwame Nkrumah and of course you have others like Universities of Tanzania, Dar’esalam and Makerere all in east Africa. As a matter of fact you can visit the Commonwealth list of Universities at www.acu.ac.uk go through ACU members link and check the ones in other English speaking African countries like Zambia, Zimbabwe etc

Peace,

Timmy.

 

Useful Analysis Effectively Utilised

Following advice recently received on this forum, my clients have just recruited:

Dr Dr Dr NoSweat as their Finance Director.

He holds 3 Doctorate Degrees, from BuyPaperNow College in the USA, MastersWhileUWait, Hawaii, and ReturnMailDoctorate of UK.

His competitor was Dr Hardluck whose CV indicated that she had the following degrees:

B. Com from Makerere University
M. Com from Nairobi University; and
PhD from University of Dar es Salaam

Thank you all for your help. We shall not hesitate to consult you again on other issues.

Opherus

 

Didn't I recently read some advice about one doing one's research before reaching decisions? There is definitely a word for that.
Hmmm...refine your position?

Tony

 

You know better. The gist of this thread started out about St. Regis with nobody pretending it was a real university. This whole forum largely concerns quality of education.

I don't think anyone has criticized any legitimate African university about their academic standards.

The appearance that diploma mills can procure accreditation from some African countries is toubling. It is also a fact that most of the diploma mills are of non-African origen.

Aside from the academic issue. Bribing foreign officials is illegal in the United States and there is no tax deuction for such activity in Canada where there is proposed legislation to make it illegal.

This does not preclude hiring a commission sales agent, in a foreign country, who then proceeds to bribe local officials, without the direct knowledge of the vendor.

Corruption in Canada is usually on the petty level, involving minor perks such as misuse of government automobiles, airline trips, lodging etc and the person involved normally resigns or is dismissed.

My town contracts with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police for local police service. They are well trained, have no sense of humour and make about $50,000 US per year with a gold plated pension. I think judges make about $100,000 US. It would be almost unimaginable that anyone would ever comprimise their career with corrupt activities.

 

I am confused by the debate on the legitamcy of St. Regis...
I have read this fourm many time to become educated on certain Colleges/Universities that claim to be RA/Accrediated.

Of course I am not looking for an easy out or anything - I believe in honest work.

But my only question is after reading all the information listed here, is St.Regis an Accrediated College or a mill?

Is one who pursues the route of a St.Regis degree setting themselves up for trouble?

Thanks

 

If you presented a St. Regis degree in a situation where an accredited degree is required, prepare youself for one of 2 things.

1) Immediate laughter.

2) Being fired 6 months later to the accompaniment of laughter.

Of course it is accredited - bought and paid for in Liberia, a country in turmoil but many others have voiced the opinion that it is a degree mill and I haven't heard anyone say it is not.

 

Timmy - As someone who is entirely pro-African-higher-education (when the school's legitimate) I'd like to point out that when you sign your message, "Timmy the African American," it appears that you are saying one of several things...
1) Because I'm African-American I have proprietary knowledge on the subject of African higher education.
2) Because of my African heritage your criticism of African higher education is offensive to me.
3) Because of my African heritage my opinion in this matter is more important than anothers opinion.
4) Something other than the above.
Regardless, you bring your racial heritage to bear in this issue as if to say that that it matters. The information you have provided regarding other African schools is interesting, important and it proves your point. The information would have proven the point, however, regardless of the race of the person who provided that information.
Jack

 

While I continue to hope that this will occur, I recognize that it is unlikely. I, myself, have neither the time nor the expertise to put together a forum of that type and I've seen no indication that anyone else does either. Perhaps you are the one to do it.
Jack