Republicans still believe Trump's election loss was the result of a rigged election

Are you or are you not one of "many people" who hold this position? Give a straight answer. Evidently, people who chose a bone-spurred adulterous cheating coward as their leader learn his cowardice.

There is enough information out there to conclude some of these claims are plainly wrong, and NO basis exists to conclude that ANY material irregularities in 2020 Presidential Elections could have changed result in as much as 1 county in the whole country. It is clear even to Orange Mussolini himself; that is why he doesn't spend money he swindles from y'all on advancing them. Making these claims with no basis is bad for the country, seditious, and is arguably an act of stochastic terrorism.

 

My position is not important to this tread, I expressed it in the past.
I don't have the data that ML has, he has more to loose then to gain from this.
I'm curious to what he has to present.

 

Mike Lindell has been telling that lie that he had proof for many months. Yet he still hasn't released said proof. There is no conceivable reason for him to not release this secret proof. Now, you explain to me how this is anything but a lie?

 

Eh? He has to gain a following of gullible people. Patron saint of anti-waxxers Andrew Wakefield lives better now attending idiot conventions than when he was a licensed physician.

 

The reason can be the trial and the need to keep some evidence for the trial? I speculate here.
From Mikes lawsuit - counter suit,

“Exhibit 12 shows a subset of 20 documented successful hacks through the election management system in the states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona resulting in a total 555,864 votes switched from President Trump to candidate Vice President Biden in the 2020 general election.
These hacks came primarily from within China and are identified by the date, location, and the network from which the hack originated and the location and network that was the target of the hack.”

The “Exhibit 12” referenced in Lindell’s lawsuit includes a list of 20 connections from foreign countries that purportedly involved reducing Trump’s vote total. So far this supposedly happened isn’t explained.
Possibly kept for the trial if or when such happens as we know Mr. Lindell is being sued.

It was speculation that some analysts hired by Mr Lindell are simply making money of him and providing some reused data from former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne book. I have no idea and only speculate.
As the videos produced so far for the public offer very little that’s actually to serve as direct evidence and more evidence if exist is kept for the trial.
So far it appears the suit introduces very little that might be considered actual, direct evidence.
As I understand Mr. Lindell will attempt to provide additional evidence.

 

He was telling that lie about having proof before Dominion even filed a lawsuit.

Here's what is happening to some of the folks that filed one of Trump's Big Lie lawsuits that were all thrown out of court by judges because there was no evidence supporting the lawsuit. This lawsuit was thrown out by the judge months ago. Since the suit was so frivolous and without merit he is punishing those that originally brought the suit supporting Trump's Big Lie.

The article says,

Federal Magistrate Judge N. Reid Neureiter's ruling will also require lawyers Gary D. Fielder and Ernest J. Walker to pay the legal fees of defendants Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook's founder, and elected officials in four swing states that were included in their lawsuit that was previously dismissed. Their suit was based on theories and lies perpetuated by Trump and his supporters that the election, which certified President Joe Biden's win, was stolen. Dominion Voting Systems in Denver became involved in some of the conspiracies.​

2 Lawyers Ordered to Pay Legal Fees for Dominion Voting Systems, Others in Election Suit​

 

If you repeat the lie, you are lying. There is nothing about the 2020 election that is yet unknown. Thus, saying that it is in dispute is a lie. Repeating what others lie about is the same as telling that lie yourself.

 

The courts have already addressed those issues and thrown them out for lack of evidence... Throughout there dozens of lawsuits that Trump put forth, the question was repeatedly asked if any of his legal representation had any evidence of election fraud... not a single one stated that they did. We really are left with a few options for conclusions. We can either conclude that an arguably insane individual with a history of deception and illegal activity either: (A) knows more than the highest State and Federal agencies, journalists, legal minds, and political offices in the nation OR that (B) he is simply insane and being taken for everything by people willing to drain his check book and have no ethics. Entirely up to you which you believe... Of course, one of the classic models for scams out there relies on a similar model to what he's selling... declare everything a conspiracy, declare that you know better and are a courageous warrior defending the truth and other, and insist that you have proof but just can't quite share it yet... Wait, how many times has the addict stated something was going to happen, but then it didn't? What's that one book state about false prophets...

 

This person is being sued by the voting machines manufacturer etc, he files a counter suit, this is current news, its whats happening now, also the other posts they are what is happening now.
If its just some scam to raise $$$ or something else I don't know. If they find something credible and new then courts will have to address it. Someone just was released from person after 15 years because of the new evidence.
Things happen, and no I'm not hopping for anything simply responding to the tread.
If anything I'm more interested in how the current issues are addressed such as huge rise in crime, pandemic seems to be getting worse again with he delta variant, the crisis at the borders and need to help migrants, and how many covid infected entering via Southern border and many more issues that are going to be important in 2022 elections.

 

My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell earlier said that the former president would somehow be reinstated to the White House in mid-August.
He revised that prediction in an interview with a far-right-wing radio program last week, claiming instead that Trump will present “proof” next month to the Supreme Court that the election was stolen by the Chinese.
Lindell believes that after Trump makes his case, the court could decide to order an election do-over
Mike Lindell says the Supreme Court might say let’s do another election without machines.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1421282113467211782

Just reporting, not endorsing, its in the news.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/were-going-back-capitol-ex-015844799.html
Mary Papenfuss
Thu, August 5, 2021, 9:58 PM

 

Mike Lindell is a liar extraordinaire. Almost as big of a liar as Donald Trump.

Real news is reporting things like Donald Trump tried to get the DOJ to declare without evidence that the election was corrupt and to leave the rest of the coup to him and his fellow Republicans. Or have the DOJ write a letter stating that Georgia should overturn the will of the people and just have the Georgia legislature declare that the electoral votes be given to Trump.

The full picture of Trump's attempted coup is only starting to emerge

 

Curious. While this may be in the news, do you consider it actually news? There’s no facts, evidence, or revelations revealed. This is simply a statement from an addict’s crack vision with no basis in reality or apparently even a conception of how our government works, and a variation of the same lie with a deadline that has repeatedly failed. While it might make a great Weekly World News article… or tabloid delusions… can it really be considered actual news? The only rationale I can see of it being put forth as actual news.. is if there’s an attempt to either spread or support misinformation.

 

No body else is posting this, under this tread. While this can be total BS, it is happening. And its no going to be reported this way on the major media.
It has followers.
I'm curious if this is money making scheme or something else, is there a dosage of truth here or all BS.
I don't know, but the title of this tread is -
Republicans still believe Trump's election loss was the result of a rigged election.
So I find this type of reports matching the title of the tread.
Indeed, these narratives are being pushed.

No intent to spread or support misinformation, only to share this side that is out there.

 

No, it isn't. It isn't "happening." It's just that there are crazy people talking about it. And you're repeating these lies. That means you're lying.

 

This is exactly on topic in my opinion.

The subtitle of this thread would be, "Republicans seem to be so detached from reality". Your posts exhibit that exact same phenomena. You seem to believe that the empty rantings of a mad man are noteworthy. Another good example of this is the fact that almost one quarter of Republicans believe in QAnon.

What has caused this break with reality for such a large portion of a major national political party? My explanation is that kernels have been planted for years. For example, Republican leaders bashing the media and then Fox News picking up on that and bashing the media. This was an extremely ironic marketing ploy by Fox that seems to have bounced back to bite them. You exhibit the result of that misinformation campaign right there in this post. So instead of trusting respected news sources many Republicans, like you, search for anything that will support their preconceived notions. Then along comes the pathological liar Trump that spews everything that the base wants to hear along with his lies and so the Republicans latch onto his lies and the Republican base has been detached from reality. The Big Lie about widespread election fraud being the perfect example. Over 50% of Republicans believe this Big Lie.

 

I agree that Lerner is repeating lies. He has claimed that he doesn't "believe" the Big Lie to be true. But, what is clear is that he wants to believe it's true. He hopes that the Big Lie turns out to be true. He clings to that hope. Much of the Republican base, like Lerner, won't trust respected news sources. So they search untrustworthy sources looking for things that they hope are true. They have essentially replaced respect of news sources as the criteria they use to paint their reality with a search for any information that they hope is true. Tidbits of information that feed or confirm their already preconceived biases. Hence Lerner can on the one hand can say that he doesn't believe the Big Lie but on the other hand hope it is true and continue to feed that hope by searching for any information that supports that hope.

 

Its possible that what I'm "reporting" sharing about what other people doing expected to called lies by the left. Maybe these are lies or partly lies and partly truths, I don't verify and its not my job.
But I'm not doing this on purpose to repeat lies.
Just like when real accredited reporters on main media reported that people will keep their Doctors under ACE act.
And there are better examples.
But I don't need to be labeled this way. So I will rethink the posting of info.
Its becoming to confrontational.

 

Eighty some odd court cases thrown out of court because they were lies. Logically, they are clearly all lies. I appreciate though, as I've already said, that you hope that they might be true. Which in my opinion a sad statement of where the Republican party is right now. I don't blame you for that though. That is the fault of past Republican leaders that pushed the idea that mainstream media can't be trusted and then Trump taking that to next level.