Republicans still believe Trump's election loss was the result of a rigged election

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Guess what? It's August and Joe Biden remains president. Even better, there is no mechanism related to the 2020 election that can change that! Even better: the Arizona Fraudit is a farce in ever which way possible!

    Good luck with the conspiracy "theories" (which are not theories at all since they are not based on any facts and explain nothing).
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Im just reporting.
    It appears some people think diffidently.
    It serves their needs and plans. Maybe using disinformation or they truly convinced they are on the right path.

    Some on the left said that ML is the most dangerous man in US. One has to wonder if he will be allowed to hold his presentation. If he proves his points, there will be an increased call for punishment.
    This would drive tension to very high levels if not, a call to action. Therefore, the most dangerous man.

    https://home.frankspeech.com/video/mike-lindell-announces-details-upcoming-cyber-symposium-oan-0

    The thoughts are that left will not allow the event to take place or scare people not to participate .
     
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  3. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Some people think that the earth is flat and the moon is made of green cheese. It doesn't mean that we should be giving voice to their opinions.
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think these people can have a voice in a free society and allowed to make their case, maybe the earth is flat :).
    Galileo was ordered to turn himself in to the Holy Office to begin trial for holding the belief that the Earth revolves around the sun, which was deemed heretical by the Catholic Church.
    Standard practice demanded that the accused be imprisoned and secluded during the trial.
     
  5. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Actually, that's not the whole story. But, hey, it makes a good soundbite.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Do you remember when Hillary Clinton complained about a "vast right-wing conspiracy" and people made fun of that for years? Because you sound just like her.
     
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  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I would be surprised if anyone on the left actually claimed that Mike Lindell is the most dangerous man in the US. That sounds like more baloney coming from Mike Lindell himself. He is more of an amusement or even a laugh-out-load-joke to those on the left. I am not sure what you mean by his call for punishment? If you are saying that people may be punished for stealing the election then that is insane crazy thinking. I thought you accepted the fact that Biden won the election without widespread fraud?

    BTW, I clicked on the link and it just spammed multiple links to a fund raising request. I'm going to have to go run a computer virus check now.
     
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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No, you're not. You're aggressively engaging in misinformation to deceive others. It is not passive--it is purposeful. Thus, you have responsibility for the lies you're posting, even if they were originally told by others.
    So? It doesn't excuse what YOU are doing.
    Who? Who has said this?
    Who is restraining this person in anyway? He's had full media coverage the entire way. In fact, the only people restraining him at all are on the Right, like CPAC and Fox.
    That's hypothetical mumbo-jumbo. The real fact is he--and the rest of those anti-American lunatics--have had every opportunity to prove their points and have failed every single time.
    Nonsense. He is nothing but a joke. The real problem is why you take him seriously at all, and why you post this junk.
    There you go with that "the left" nonsense. Who says these things?

    When you post this kind of drivel, the person who's reputation is crushed isn't "ML." It's you.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    How are ANY of these people squelched in their exercise of free speech?

    Your problem isn't that these people are being restrained. Your problem is that they are not being HEEDED. That's because it is nonsense.
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Good point. No one even talks about it anymore because it is so obviously true. Look at January 6th for the evidence.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Perhaps what he means is that Lindell and others like him have courted significant civil liability for making libelous statements about companies that make voting machines?
     
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  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    The result of Faux News and Trump exposure on human brain: inability to express a thought without hiding behind "I'm just reporting" and "some people" (ha!).

    Also, please use "diffidently" in a sentence.
     
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  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I'm reporting, its as simple as this. You may think as you wish.
     
  14. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Also known as "just asking questions"? You're not the first.
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
    Actually, Trump technique his more cowardly little brown shirts use, and that is here on display, is even more pathetic than JAQing off. He is fond of using some imaginary "some people" to even ask questions for him. Sad!
     
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No, you're not "reporting." Reporters use discretion and try to report the truth. What you're doing is echoing what others are saying without giving any of it any real scrutiny. That's why they call it the "right wing echo chamber."

    That means, of course, that their lies become your lies. Everyone sees that.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Not so.
    I can report or share info without being professional reporter to this forum. Here is the logic an individual made a statement, it may be truthful or not.
    Someone reported that such and such made a statement such and such. The report is truthful, the statement is another issue.
    You can argue that the content/message is complete BS what you did. I have no issue with that.
    We can argue about content, I'm trying to avoid personal attacks as mach as possible.
    No one else brings such content for discussion, but its out there.
    I didn't start this tread, but my post is relevant to the title of the tread.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Sad is that people reserve to personal attacks instead of arguing about the content.
    Usually a sign that they are afraid of the content.
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It's not a personal attack. If you repeat the lie, you are lying. Nothing personal about it.

    As for content, almost all of your posts are utterly devoid of what any reasonable person would conclude is "content."
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    These people maybe not purposly lying but trully belive that they are on the side of the truth. And there are thise who are afraid of their truth and treying t
    I think you are wrong, many people think there is truth behind these efforts.
    I think these are not some conniving liars, conspirators but people who really believe in what hey are trying to prove against all odds and despite very low probability.
    They suffer losses in their struggles.

    Again, the logic is that I share what someone who is involved in the process is claiming, its not making me a liar.
    For example if Ml is saying he has data that proves the machines were rigged, and willing to share this data with people. I don't know if his data is real or not.
    I'm just pointing to the fact that ML is planning an event to share the data with the people.

    I have no way to know is he is lying or telling the truth.
    What has he to gain from this?
    To be sued by the voting machine company?






     
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  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Kindly follow the link I provided. I called you on what you are doing; engaging a bad faith debater, eg a JAQ-off, on "content" is a waste of time.
    Express an actual position like a man; then and only then we'll have something to debate.
     

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