PhD in Management?

Doctor of Management but not PhD

Look what I found

I found a DL Doctoral degree from University of Maryland-University College

It requires some residency meetings at UMUC headquarters in Adelphi, MD

Credits: 48 minimum (Semester Credits)

State Residents: $ 950.00 per semester credit
Out of State: $ 950.00 per semester credit
Total Cost of Degree: $45,600.00 <- not bad for a Doctoral degree

Not AACSB - UMUC is accredited by the Commission on Higher Education of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools for more than 50 years. In addition, UMUC is a state university in the University System of Maryland.


6. Is UMUC AACSB accredited?
UMUC has not sought AACSB* International accreditation

BUT, since this is not a PhD, I guess it is not good for someone looking for a tenure positition, like me:


13. If I receive my degree, will I be able to teach at the college/university level?

The DM degree from UMUC is a doctoral degree from a regionally accredited university. That is typically one of the requirements for teaching in higher education. However, the Doctor of Management program is not designed for students who aspire to tenure-track positions at research universities. Individuals with this goal may wish to consider pursuing a specialized Ph.D. degree. The Doctor of Management degree is designed for people who hold, or who aspire to hold, senior leadership or management positions in the public, private, higher education, and not-for-profit sectors.

http://www.umuc.edu/doctor/

Bummer

 

I'm also finding a few Ivy League universities are NOT AACSB accredited, hmm, maybe they don't need to since their names are well-known, maybe they have a slight case of arrogance. Well, they are loosing out, cos even if I wanted to pay their inflated costs I wouldn't because they are not AACSB accredited, reducing my chances of getting into a PhD program in the future.

 

Yes, bummer, indeed, to pay for a doctorate but not actually earn one.

 

Colorado Technical University, George Fox University, Webster University, University of Phoenix, Walsh College, Lawrence Technological University and Case Western Reserve University also offer (or have offered) the Doctor of Management degree.

 

How is a doctor of management not a doctorate? Is a JD not a doctorate?

 

Some of these are not AACSB.

Case Western PhD requires an onsite every 4-8 weeks (or did when I investigated it in 2002-2003 time).

 

I was pointing out that the DM is not as rare as might be thought from previous posts.
Also I remembered one of the schools I attended in the UK now has what they call a DMAN degree (not DL and also non-AASCB) - here is a list of dissertations for this degree:
http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/schools-of-study/business/research/complexity-and-management-centre/cmc-ma-and-dman-completions.cfm

 

UMUC says that the DM is not accepted as a doctorate, so how could it be a doctorate?

No, the JD is not a doctorate; there is no dissertation.

 

There's no dissertation for the MD, DO, OD, PharmD, etc.. Don't those count either?

 

In the university setting, are those the highest degrees in their respective disciplines?

 

It's not a Doctor of Philosophy Degree, not research-based, universities like to hire researchers not people with a Doctor of Mgmt (DM) which is like a super MBA, while a PhD is not a super MBA.

I would LOVE to find a DL (even with some residency) PhD or DBA programs so I can apply for teaching positions at universities. I am willing to work hard, to research, and to pay $ but I am not willing to quit my job and loose my income in order to attend a traditional full time PhD program.

 

Can you find a part time program?

In Southern California there are several part time (occasional weekend or evening courses) doctorate programs including Ed.Ds. from Pepperdine and Cal State universities. The Pepperdine Ed.D. one is in organizational leadership and there were several employees of my last company enrolled in the program. Cal State Long Beach has a Ph.D. in Engineering and Industrial Applied Mathematics in conjunction with Claremont. And I heard of a DPA part-time program but can't recall the school. I have not heard of any part time DBAs but there may be some.

So perhaps you can find a part time doctorate in your area that meets your needs.

 

A "PT PhD locally".
That is good advice. I will look.

I live in Minnesota. Anyone out there knows of Minnesota PT PhD's in Biz, Management or Org leadership?

Thanks

 

There are many, AACSB - Grenoble, Aston, Henley.

 

None of these are housed in the business program, so IMO you would have a hard time getting a teaching position in the Business schools with these degrees.

 

Thank you

Could you please confirm these are the same 3 you mentioned:

Grenoble http://www.grenoble-em.com/1283-phd-in-business-administration-2.aspx
Aston http://www1.aston.ac.uk/aston-business-school/programmes/research/
Henley http://www.henley.reading.ac.uk/courses/hbs-phd-business-research.aspx

If I have to join a non-US program so be it

 

DL/limited residency PhD/DBA List

Does anyone have a list of all the available DL/limited residency PhD/DBA programs worldwide that are taught in English?

Thanks

 

I believe that earlier in this thread I gave threadlinks for two DBA threads: one that has become "my" DBA sticky (and that was about any DBA with legit accred) and another DBA thread that was just exclusively about AACSB DBAs (in which I did not participate). Also, you could go to www.aacsb.edu and get their list of accredited institutions. Any foreign AACSB institution with doctorates likely has UK-style (dissertation-only) doctorates that can be arranged as distance or short-residency programs.

 

Ted, thanks.
I went back to the beginning and extracted all the info given on PhDs. I am in the process of reading http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31574

I will contribute any info I have to that thread, if needed.

I will consider the PhD option, if I determine that I am unable to get into one of these without an MA level degree (or recent academic recommendation letters) then I will go for an MBA first.

Thanks again

 

In looking at the UK doctorate scene over the last several years it appears that course work is now needed more often for doctorates - sometimes requiring a masters along the way. This site summarizes traditional and newer UK doctorates - many of which are not available in the USA:
http://www.vitae.ac.uk/researchers/1248/Types-of-doctoral-degrees.html