PhD in Management?

There is a B&M program, but there is a DL (with visits) program as well. In english.

 

I would agree that the distinction between PhD and DBA is not great. It all depends on the strcuture of the program. There are research-only DBA's and coursework-based PhD's and vice-versa. University professorships are based mainly on publications and research, less on the name of the degree.

 

Thanks, Randell.

 

Well, it depends on what "level" of state university you're looking for. If you're thinking major flagship state university (the one with doctoral programs in all fields), then definitely publish, publish, publish. But check with your dissertation advisor to find out whether you can include a previously published article as a chapter in your dissertation. If you're looking at the smaller compass-points (the small four-year colleges that emphasize undergrad education but might have very small terminal master's programs designed for high school teachers), then teach, teach, teach. Look at in-person adjuncting gigs at your local cc and look at online adjuncting gigs. The UOP and UMUC, among online schools, are considered the places where online adjuncts go to get experience. See our Online & DL Teaching subforum.

 

As far as advice on fields, Steve is right that Finance and Accounting professorships are in high demand relative to supply, so you might want to make that your field of doctoral studies. As for fields for community college adjuncting gigs right now, accreditors allow two-year colleges to hire instructors in technical subjects (like IT) with a two-year degree plus two years experience. So, with your computer science bachelor's ...

 

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I've got it if you have 120K to 150K (2 year program Ivy League)! Thoughts? School starts with UOP not that one the other one in PA

 

Hi. What do you plan to do with the doctorate once you earn it? How old are you?

 

Thanks to all of you for all this information, this is great. I really appreciated reading all your feedback.

Dave, I'm 30yrs old and I have worked in IT since graduating from college.

Ideally, a PhD in business would allow me to apply for teaching positions at universities. It would also open other doors when it comes to doing business related research.

I am not that interested in finance or accounting, I am more interested in management, project management, organizational management etc (something related to human behavior and organization)

Since I am fortunate to have a decent job now, in this economy it doesn''t make sense to leave a job in order to attend a PhD program, but it is still a possibility.

I am in the process of studying the GMAT.

 

Ian,
Thank you for the link, the good thing about this program is that it is in IT, thus I can build on my undergrad degree and years of work experience in IT. On the other hand, I find myself drawn to the fields of managing people and organizational management, project management or business process design more than IT. But, admittedly, I need to research this issue (what field of management or business study to pursue) a little more.

You've given me good food for thought.

The pay at community colleges is at best mediocre, community colleges seem to pay faculty much less than 4-yr universities do, their pay is equivalent to what an IT worker can expect to make if they have less than 5yrs of experience (and I have more than 5yrs work experience in IT).

Keep the replies coming, I love this. Thanks to all.

 

What I would do...

If your goal is to teach at State U - more than likely you will need a traditional doctorate from an AACSB school. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions, but...

In the meantime, I would consider an MS/MBA from an AACSB accredited school. A PhD is a tremendous undertaking, and you don't want to take off from the "real world." I get that. By completing the MS/MBA, you are working towards the eventual goal of a doctorate. Then in two to three years (after you graduate with the MS/MBA), you can make the call on:

1. Do I want a PhD

2. Am I willing to take time off to go the traditional route?

3. Will I do a distance PhD knowing that it will be more difficult to land in that State U Tenure Track.

I'm almost done with a Organization/Management PhD from Capella University (plan to submit completed dissertation in early January - graduation in June 2010). I'm very happy with the program. I've presented and chaired papers and panel discussions, but I know that if I were to leave the cozy confines of my community college, that the odds would be stacked against me for a tenure position at State U.

Good luck!

Shawn

 

I disagree, if you find an AACSB program, I think the program will be fine, B&M or DL.

 

Well, you are not too old to get sucked into a regionally-accredited doctoral program to change careers. Moreover, your motivation to teach with the degree squares with reality. Even if the marketers of the doctoral program misrepresent the length / cost of the program and do everything possible to prevent you from graduating, you should still be done by the time you are in your late 30's. That is, assuming that you get started soon.

How badly do you want to teach? I mean, are you a "born teacher" or can you take it or leave it?

 

I would also say, go with the spec. that you love (OB/MGMT/HR). The PhD is so difficult, if you don't love it, you won't get through..... and yes, by the end, you will hate it

THough I agree with the posters that it is over flowing with candidates, and there is not many in Finc/Acct (we can't fill the positions we have year to year). Also, Entrep. and International Business are others that are hard to find solid candidates.

 

I wouldn't classify this program as DL. It is an external/residency research program since there is no coursework. Whether the program was on-site or external would make little difference.

 

Currently, Kennesaw State University www.kennesaw.edu is the only US-based AACSB DBA.

The MBA Sticky http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27695 is broken down by state and each school listed has schoo0l name, website, degree titles/concentrations, hourly tuition, hours in degree, total program tuition, and accreditations. So, you can probably pick an AACSB MBA to meet your needs.

 

Then any AACSB doctoral program is not DL.

 

Not so. Kennesaw State www.kennesaw.edu offers a DBA via DL. The University of Florida www.ufl.edu is in process of getting a DL DBA up and running. What is being said is that Grenoble is and the three or so UK docs that are AACSB are dissertation-only and could be done either at a distance or in residence; but they are not designed as distance learning.

 

From Kennesaw's website: http://coles.kennesaw.edu/graduate/dba/why-coles.htm - They require five day residencies: "Your curriculum is delivered by combining five-day residencies (Wed-Sun), weekend sessions, and online exchanges and collaboration."

UoF does not currently offer a program DL that I could find - though they may in the future.

 

OK. So, Kennesaw's DBA is not completely DL. I never said it was. So UFL's proposed short-residency DBA is not up and running yet. I never said it was.