More tut-tut-ery in Gaza

She proves you and many who fall for Hamas propoganda 100% on a wrong side of justice and truth.
Every one who hates conservatives attacks her.
A badge of honor if the attackers are Liberals.

 

Shooting the messanger is one of favored tactics by liberal apologists.
Instead of character smearing, prove what she said is wrong.
This will be more productive.
I think she is correct in this interview.
I can't tell how match aid Hamas stollen, but we all know they stole a lot, etc
Because liberals (perhaps not all, but many of them) refuse to acknowledge realities and proven facts, and if you state any such realities and proven facts, they call you a bigot, transphobe, xenophobe, racist, etc. They're also forcing everyone else to normalize mental illness and deviance, or else accuse us of hate speech and intolerance. Another all-too-common trait among liberals, is claiming to be tolerant and open-minded, but acting far from tolerant and open-minded when your opinions, beliefs, etc., differ from theirs.

 

Sorry Lerner, I rarely look at your videos. It is more than enough to read her Wikipedia article which makes it clear that she is not a trustworthy source. So there is no reason to listen to that video. Actually if the video is about Hamas stealing Palestinian aid, that sounds likely true but so what? It's not relevant to anything that we were discussing.

 

Bill if 36,000 dead in Gaza, and 16,000 roughly are Hamas terrorists.
This means the ration of combatant to civilian is 1 to 1.
Unlike you, looking on how to discredit her.
Address what she is saying.
Did it occure to you that she lasted all this time because she is on the side of the truth?

 

Since she is neither credible nor an expert, she needs to reference someone or something credible. I'm not going to believe her just because. I have more education related to this topic than she does. Why should I listen to someone dumber, crazier, and less educated than I am?

You're normalizing mental illness by normalizing this psycho who denied facts on vaccines. Anything that is different from your opinion on this topic you call Hamas propaganda. That is not open-minded.

 

The Abrahamic religions have a lot of crossover. If you hate one, you kind of have to hate all of them.

 

In core they have strong values but with the time people corrupted the core teachings.
So Islamists call Jews, pigs and monkeys and those who follow bukhari, are extremely militant and contradict teachings of Quran.
Christians have thousands of denominations and we have history of wars and persecutions between christians, Jews are also not one group, there is a range from Ultra Orthodox to Ultra seculars and everything inbetween.
Tooooo many divisions in the world.
If you follow apocalyptic prophecies of those religeons, the we are approaching such times.
People believed ib 1914 WW1that it was it, than in 1939 WW2, and now it's boiling toward WW3.

All we need is love.

 

Judge her by what she is saying.
Dispute her, show her wrong.
As to liberal media and tactics, I formed this views whwn observed liberal media and criticizing its characterizations of following the PLO founder's death. You know that the PLO has killed millions of opposers, and that Arafat was indirectly responsible for millions of deaths; Arafat's posthumous media profile as "innovative" and "freedom fighter'", Arafat reportedly was hiding away billions of dollars that came from different countries that was to help the people.
So no I'm not normalizing mental illness but expanding it difinition that should be added to DSM.

 

How do you propose to end the war?
What will bring security to Israel?
And better life to Gazans?
Puting a side all our debates.
What practical approach is proposed?
I'm trying to scale down posting on this tread but provoked to respond when see hostile info that in my sight seems like blood libel.

 

You know what? I'm going to be quiet because my semi-profressional assessment will get the thread locked. You have to pick your battles, and I've seen this play out a few times before on this forum. Goodnight. Take care of your health, Lerner.

 

Interesting comment, though. I think it's true. Islam and Christianity are sometimes called "daughters" of Judaism but I'm not sure that's exactly accurate. Rabbinic Judaism came from the same sources as Christianity and both replaced the sacrificial cult of Israel. Islam is a late comer like Mormonism but these also draw from the same basic sources.

So are these religions more alike than different? Yes. I suppose they are. Hm.

 

This is absolutely horrible brain dead bad advice. It is why people believe so much nonsense. GET YOUR NEWS FROM RELIABLE SOURCES! Is the only way to be a well informed individual.

 

Here's the deal Lerner.

Israel has lost vast support around the world. World criminal courts are questioning Israel actions. Previously allied countries are recognizing a Palestinian state. College kids are protesting Israeli actions. The UN is criticizing Israel. Etc,etc. etc. Just 8 months ago on October 7 Israel had their maximum world support. You make the silly argument that it is all because Hamas is so powerful and overwhelming in their insidious sneaky propaganda. But for the moment let me just grant that silly argument as completely true and factual. Still it means that Israel is making huge mistakes by not combating the sneaky propaganda. Israel is becoming isolated and hated by many. What causes me concern is even many in the American public are getting a poor perception of Israel. If Israel support in the USA continues to erode it could spell eventual doom for the country. Yet the Israeli leadership continues down this same failed path.

There are a number of things that could be tried. I don't pretend to be an expert but here's an example.

Stop the bombing. Transition over to a police action. Put Israel in control or at least overseeing administration of Gaza. Use Gaza rebuilding funds to reward Palestinians that support Israel and reject Hamas. Reward Palestinians that warn Israeli "police" of Hamas retaliation. Slowly destroy the tunnels and kill all of the vermin in there.

 

Should have STARTED OUT as a police action through the West Bank kleptocracy. A fig leaf, true, but sometimes a fig leaf is all that's required. But as I keep droning on about, the Kahanist technique is to use terrorist attacks as an excuse for genocide.

 

I wish the forum software had a way to let us know how often a posted video is actually watched. If it did I think Lerner would be surprised how rarely his videos were viewed?

 

I used to be a Mormon. I've never been a Muslim but, I agree with this.

 

Islam is also a lot older than Mormonism and, therefore, closer to the time period when Christianity gained popularity. Mormonism has a New Age feel to it and is more reminiscent of Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses, in my opinion. There's a movement that Mormonism came out of, but I forgot what it was called.

 

It'll be extremely difficult to gain the trust of Gazans now. Netanyahu didn't think this through. Even if he managed to kill all of the Hamas militants, another extremist group would take its place. He's created the perfect conditions for a more terrorist-focused group to form. At least prior to recent events, a lot of Palestinians were working in Israel. Israel also has its own Arab citizens, so this is just creating more division within their borders.