More tut-tut-ery in Gaza

Each religion evolved and there are many fractions and infighting.

This is all a part of a much bigger plot to destroy the state of Israel. Face it its 100+ years dispute, and actually a part of major 1500 year Jihad and conquest.
Since religion was brought in this discussion, then it's not a secret that Jihad wants to eliminate the little satan and the big satan.
If you understand Arabic, just visit your local musk, and listen to some sermons there. Or find some online. Not all are very hostile to the West, but usualy around major holidays you get the encitement.
Hamas spoiled it to Hezbollah, in reality Israel was expecting such scenario and attack to come from the Lebanon side.

Today an Israeli drove to a city in Qalqilia West Bank to buy vegetables, immediately was gunned down by terrorists and his car burned.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-shot-dead-in-qalqilya-reportedly-found-with-vegetables-he-bought-in-city/

 

Soon you will be a Muslim

Just a sarcastic joke, but it's not far from the Islamists goals for the USA and the world.

 

Not true. Netanyahu thought this through exactly as far as he needed to for his own benefit. Beyond that, he doesn't care two olive pits.

 

It doesn't seem to be helping his political career unless he plans to only rely on Mizrahi Jews to carry him. I wonder if Mizrahi Jews' experience of having lived under Muslim rule for thousands of years has led to them having this hardline stance. However, while not always treated well in the Middle East, Jews were treated far worse in Europe.

 

Maybe not but at this point, the Settler Right and Ultra Orthodox parties are all he has.

 

I know you were joking although Muslim does have a reputation for some violent recruitment activities.

Mormons have an extremely aggressive recruitment program. All Mormon males at about 18 are supposed to do a year or two of missionary work. Many women also do missionary work. Young teen males routinely get Mormon missionary training. quote: According to the National Council of Churches, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the second-fastest-growing church in the United States.

 

Times of Israel
In first, more Israelis think Bennett better suited to be PM than Netanyahu — poll
Former PM also beats out Gantz in head-to-head matchup; television survey indicates public backs IDF over premier, with 51% saying 'total victory' against Hamas is unattainable.

Interview with Naftali Bennet

 

This is not the Inquesition.
This is fanatic mob, last Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pakistan-police-register-case-mob-killed-man-suspected-111304385

Blasphemy accusations are common in Pakistan. Under the country’s blasphemy laws, anyone found guilty of insulting Islam or Islamic religious figures can be sentenced to death. While authorities have yet to carry out a death sentence for blasphemy, accusations can cause riots and incite mobs to violence.

Last month, a mob in Pakistan’s eastern Punjab province attacked a 72-year-old Christian man after accusing him of desecrating pages of the Quran. He later died at a hospital.

 

I stopped attending Mormon Church at the age of 13. But, when I was 14 or 15 I was staying with my cousin over the summer. I went with him to a Mormon seminary class. It was within walking distance of the High School because Mormons could be excused from school for one period to take a seminary class during school. Anyway, the instructor was giving explicit practical instructions as to things to do and things to say to people when they would be performing their missionary work.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-says-open-to-partial-pause-and-hostage-deal-but-war-wont-end-until-hamas-destroyed/

 

According to the LA Times, Netanyahu won't end the Gaza war in return for hostages' release. Of course he won't. He's full-on Kahaneist now. This is his chance to destroy the Arab community in Gaza thus assuring support from the settler zionist parties and staying in office indefinitely.

 

New Yoork Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/nyregion/hamas-gaza-aid-unrwa-lawsuit.html
"Hamas Skimmed $1 Billion in U.N. Aid for Weapons and Tunnels, Suit Says
About 100 Israelis sued the UNRWA - United Nations Relief and Works Agency, saying it pays local employees in dollars that buoy the terrorist group. But the case faces high legal hurdles.For years, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency sent millions of dollars each month to Gaza to pay employees and support hospitals, schools and other infrastructure, according to a new lawsuit. The money was wired from New York, where the agency has an office, to the West Bank, where financial institutions loaded some of that cash onto trucks to be driven across Israel to Gaza."

 

Now Netanyahu has another problem. The Israeli Supreme Court just told the government they must begin drafting Haredi youth into the IDF or cut off funding for those communities. If Netanyahu complies, the religious parties, Shas and UTJ, will quit the coalition and the government will fall. If he does not comply, he'd better get some legislation through the Knesset somehow overruling the Court or he will face a constitutional crisis he cannot survive.

 

The coalition Ultra-Orthodox parties hold significant budgets that hey are not in a hurry to abandon, because if they fail the government, they may lose all these budgets.
There is a new block emerging that may be able to challenge the with predicted 35 mandates. Lieberman and others.

After the High Court ruling, those around Netanyahu are trying to cool the frustration of the ultra-Orthodox parties, assuring them that it will be possible to deal with it through legislation in the Knesset.
Ultra-Orthodox officials claimed that they "could live" with 3,000 recruits, as long as those whose "Torah is their art" can continue to study Torah.

Lieberman asked AG to advise the current gov to immediately implement and start drafting haredi in to the army.
Yuli Edelstain asked the Army for a plan and needs , how many they need right now?
Later on Tuesday, Likud MK Yuli Edelstein, who heads the Knesset committee that is currently deliberating the government’s ultra-Orthodox enlistment bill, issued a statement saying the legislation will only advance “with broad agreement.”
“Or the law won’t pass at all,” he declared.

"The Attorney General’s Office on Tuesday instructed the Israel Defense Forces to immediately draft 3,000 ultra-Orthodox yeshiva students beginning July 1, following the High Court of Justice’s ruling earlier in the day that the government is obligated to conscript such men into military service.
In a letter addressed to the ministries of defense, finance, and education, the Attorney General’s Office also ordered the government to refrain from transferring funds previously allocated to yeshivas for students who were studying in lieu of military service, in accordance with the court’s decision, telling the ministries they can no longer provide such support in any format."

 

Good! If they're going to get behind Netanyahu, then they should be willing to fight.

 

Well...um. I'm not an Israeli. I have some idea of the basic structure of Israeli society from friends and relations. My views, however, should not be given much weight.

I don't think it is as easy as it sounds. Yes, there are several thousands of young men (and women too but the rules are different) who could be serving in the IDF instead of enjoying an exemption for Torah study. But some of these young men DO serve voluntarily and may face troubles with their communities for doing so.

It is exceedingly difficult for a young haredi man to survive outside the community. The rabbis who have authority in such communities often discourage secular education because they don't believe anything should distract from yeshiva study. This is also why working is discouraged by some (but not all) rabbis. When secular Israelis complain that the religious are "parasites" that's what they mean.

But is it a good idea to require people to serve and fight who have a deep seated and genuine moral objection to fighting? Here in the U.S. as in many other countries we excuse conscientious objectors from the draft. We also subsidize the families of those who are poor even if their poverty is the result of their own choices.

It's not like these communities were created for the purpose of living off welfare and avoiding the draft. Religious communities of Jews existed in Palestine from at least the 10th century. They studied "for a living" and lived off donations from the diaspora. In a way, these people lived, studied, and taught in the Holy Land thus fulfilling these important mizvot for the rest of the Jewish world and that world thought it worthwhile to support their efforts.

There's another thing. The Haredim are the only sector of Jewish society that is growing, that has a fertility rate high enough to match the Arabs and manages to stay intensely Jewish. Jewish communities in most of the world are dying out or assimilating. One might legitimately say that if that's what authentic, distinct Jewishness looks like then to hell with it but if there is no Jewish community preserving this distinctly Jewish way of being, what's Israel for?

Israel was founded with a fundamental contradiction that all too easily might become fatal. It wants to be an open, Western style democracy but it ALSO needs to be "The Jewish State". It can't be both and Israelis know that. Israelis are well advised, I believe, to proceed with caution.

More than one secular Israeli has said, "The God I don't believe in and the synagogue I would not be caught dead in are ORTHODOX." They don't mean they would go to a Reform Temple; they mean that even as they reject the Orthodox rabbis and all they stand for, nevertheless it is those rabbis and that expression of Judaism that the secular Israelis recognize as legitimately Jewish. Liberal Judaism is not generally seen as anything but a childish game of pretend.

It's complicated.