Masters Propio (ENEB, etc)

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I wonder if they're still in operation. The home page says "Happy New Year 2019" and their news section has a bunch of articles from 2017 and 2018. I'm not sending any dinero quite yet.
     
  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    But isn't this what Isabel, Azteca, UCN and similar are doing? The rent degree-granting business is very profitable, I just print the diplomas an you do the work. I keep my license in good standing in Spain, Costa Rica, Mexico, etc and just sell the degree granting rights.
     
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  3. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    LOL, maybe you can get the CRA to check on the school and approve it before you send your money.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No - not the CRA - I think the CIA should check on it. They're known for safeguarding American interests in Costa Rica. Maybe they can keep the distance schools safe for non-Ticos. :)
     
  5. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    They claim that they can give you an ECE (NACES member) report, this is what a lot of people here are looking for.

    I am sure that more similar operations will come up. The need for cheap education in the US is obvious and this type of operation seems to target Americans.

    So to the OP, I am sure that if you search you will find a "doctoral level" titulo propio somewhere that might give you a NACES equivalency report for less than 10K. I searched and found few operations that fit the bill but all these are marginal and might give you the right to call yourself "Dr" but this is about all you get with them.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think it must have the claimed recognition as it also offers some degrees with full Mexican RVOE (Reconocido de Validez) approval and is up-front about which degrees are which. I wonder - does the NACES report offer cover both types? Can't seem to find the fees. They say there's an automatic scholarship of 50% off fees - but I can't find the amount. I'll keep looking and report back if I find them.
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oops - sorry. This is a Mexican school, not Costarricense. Cuidado! Gran peligro! Hay muchos bandidos!:eek:
     
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  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Well, the do have a campus, picture of the address below:
    https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x80d93fd633bb7705:0x9b68b58d977e71e1!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/universitam+universidad/@32.5137222,-116.8753566,3a,75y,352.73h,90t/data=*213m4*211e1*213m2*211syOrZRdd579mKQ3dZo4ybig*212e0*214m2*213m1*211s0x80d93fd633bb7705:0x9b68b58d977e71e1?sa=X!5suniversitam universidad - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e2!2syOrZRdd579mKQ3dZo4ybig&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbps-kkrnqAhU1ZDUKHagFAAoQpx8wC3oECBAQBg

    Not very impressive but it is a virtual school.

    UNEM is supposed to be located at calle 41, San José, Curridabat, Costa Rica. I couldn't find a picture to verify if there is anything there that resembles a University.
     
  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Their Canadian Ostheopathy school seems serviceable enough, but that profession is unregulated. The "DO" degree is unaccredited, and rather pointless.
     
  10. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Not good enough for teaching but good enough to practice. Ostheopathy is non regulated in some provinces so you can practice as long you have an insurance, you can probably become a member of a professional association with this degree and get insurance.

    Not everyone needs an accredited degree.
     
  11. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yes, precisely. They have set up their own association and seem to get some benefit plans to reimburse their graduates. They compete with some, higher cost, schools and their ostensibly higher-end association - but that one is likewise unregulated. Many of their graduates are licensed massage therapists (they get advanced standing) and get to provide different services based on what the client's plan will cover. It's a real job, and there is no need for accredited degree.

    The issue with Dr. Pourgol's empire (he's a Dr. based on his "retired" Chiropractic credential) is all the advanced degrees, plus the fact that their Toronto school offer online Diploma with OPTIONAL hands-on practicum. Weird for a manipulative field.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right. Looks like a big fence around a small store-size 2-story building and a vacant lot. Maybe they were building a Potemkin village as Stanislav mentioned.
    And you can get your car repaired at the garage next door. I rotated it in every possible direction. Looks like a typical dusty Mexican Calle Principal (Main St.) Good for another exciting Salma Hayek movie set, maybe. And yet they have Ministry approval and RVOE degrees....
     
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There are pics here - don't know how trustworthy. https://free-apply.com/en/university/1018800030
    16 Bachelor's, 7 Master's, 3 Doctorates - all ~$5,700. Remarkable consistency....
     
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  14. Johann766

    Johann766 Member

    Thanks for your hints regarding a Doctoral Propio degree :)

    University of Peace wants 43.500 Dollars in fees for their Propio doctoral degree which is WAY more than I´m willing to spend for that kind of degree.

    Regarding https://universitam.com/ I will try to contact them to see if the institution is still operating.

    And regarding National University of Medical Sciences (NUMSS), last time I checked they mentioned somethere in their FAQ that they are not state-recognized.

    And regarding San Juan de la Cruz University, they havn´t answered to my Email yet, not sure if this institution is still operating.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    From this school, that might be the best news of all! :)

    If you're interested, UNEM offers doctorates - in English - for around $5,700. Depending where you live and what you do with it, you could end up "UNEMployed", though. You have to be careful.

    Prosit!

    Johann 666 - Baron zu Wurstburg und Biersaufen
     
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  16. Johann766

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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And if all it takes to get a school burned/banned is an article in Der Spiegel - so much the better. The power of the Press! Wow! :emoji_older_man:
     
  19. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    At some point the school was owned by Americans
    It is active, they are still accredited and offer programs. I contacted then in 2016 and was given a catalog with tuition fees. I checked at the time with CONASUP and they were still listed.
     
  20. asianphd

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