Marijuana Legalization

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Oct 31, 2016.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Everybody must get stoned.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  5. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

  6. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Member

    It’s really becoming challenging to find young labor, who can pass a drug test now. In the past few months, I’ve worked with a number of large employers who’ve had 80%+ positive drug test results for young labor hires. Too many are not understanding that even if its decriminalized, it’s still a no-go for many employers and insurance companies.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Sounds like too many are not understanding that if you want to be able to hire enough people, you should MYOB about what they do after work.
     
  8. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Member

    With the recent OSHA changes that essentially eliminate post-accident drug testing, which is not necessarily a bad thing, many large contractors and industrial operations are in a bind and have had to increase the frequency of pre-hire and random drug testing. Regardless of what people's opinions may be, large contractors and industrial operations often have strict insurance requirements to perform due diligence at ensuring a drug free workplace for employees working with dangerous equipment or processes. What people do after work, often has an affect on their performance at work. The MYOB argument may be valid in some circumstance or some occupations, but certainly not in many others.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    I'm all for eliminating workplace accidents, but if you test people in a certain age group specifically for cannabis use, and so many test positive that you can't maintain hiring even though only a small minority actually cause accidents, then testing for cannabis use is a pretty poor proxy for weeding out likely accident causers.
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    One of the reasons I started this thread was because I had an interest is watching to see what happens when cannabis is legalized in Massachusetts. As far as I can tell the dispensaries/stores are selling quite a large amount but there's not been any big social upheaval, increase in crime rate, increase in workplace accidents or dramatic shortages of oreo cookies. More people are talking about using CBD and there's a lot of anecdotal evidence that both substances help with anxiety and pain relief. As a side note, I am predicting that when the new NFL collective bargaining agreement eventually is wrapped up you will see an end to cannabis testing of players. This might come in exchange for an increase to an 18 game regular season.
     
  11. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Member

    The problem is when incidents or accidents have high severity of ramifications. Organizations with high risk operations or process safety management regulatory requirements, are managed at a different level of due diligence and management. I'm not referring to low risk operations like retail, restaurants, minor industrial assembly work.
     
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