Marijuana Legalization

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Oct 31, 2016.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    In Canada, it has been a dud. The excitement leading up to legalization is all but vanished in my neck of the tundra. I have not seen or smell a single person using weed. The only issue I am hearing is that the legal prices are too high, and the supply too limited to do anything to the illegal market. Now that is a shame, because it may have unintended consequences on crime.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    I guess you don't live in Vancouver? When I was there last year I caught that scent every time I walked by a public park, and that was before complete legalization.

    I assume they still have all sorts of restrictions on who can sell it, keeping the price artificially... well, high?
     
  4. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    I am 2,939 km north of Vancouver. The Territories can be fairly lawless. Anyway not much is happening. At the moment, The government is the sole provider so not as efficient and the illegal market.
     
  5. Fl.Temples

    Fl.Temples New Member

    I just bought some accessories at Migvapor and wanna hear nothing about decriminalization of marijuanna
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    You're in the wrong thread then, I guess.
     
  7. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    People tell me that legalization of recreational marijuana is on tomorrow's state ballot in North Dakota and Michigan. Several other states are voting on whether to allow medical marijuana.
     
  8. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    It pretty much was here in California too. Lots of anticipation, in the media especially, but that's about all.

    I occasionally see little groups of millenials in San Francisco or Oakland huddled together and smell it as I pass them, but that kind of thing isn't any more common now than before legalization. My sense is that those who were smoking it before are smoking it now, but there hasn't been any huge rush by non-smokers to join them. So all the pre-election alarmism about the whole population getting stoned and zombified hasn't materialized. People seem to still be buying beer at about the same rate as before.
     
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  9. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Cannabis stocks are underperforming. Nothing has changed - no one cares. This is another instance of the government legislating morality. it may save a few people from having a criminal record which is a good thing. And police can go about now fighting less crime.
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I definitely smell considerably more of it downtown, since Oct 17th or whenever it became legal. I highly doubt if much of what I smell was bought from the one legal seller - the Provincial Government website. I think the implementation is a failure, if it was supposed to be a revenue-maker. Bad Government. BAD! (Smack!)
     
  11. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    There are few things that governments can do better than the freemarket. Selling Cannabis is not one of them. Ironically, because government control prices are so higher, the black and grey market just became more profitable.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I think marijuana is a lot safer than opiates.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It had to happen in Canada. No-tax pot shops on Native reserves. Oodles of them. Authorities are falling all over themselves trying to figure out if there's some Constitutional way they can shut them down. (I don't think there is.)
    Here in Ontario, fully half the tobacco cigarettes smoked come from the Native reserves - it's been that way for oh- maybe 30 years. They are manufactured legally, but they're un-taxed, therefore not supposed to leave the Reserve. But they do, of course - and cost less than a quarter of the price of "legal" smokes. Government loses billions in tax. Now they'll lose more.

    The Pot Shops have been here a while - many articles. This Reserve already has 26 Pot Shops - https://torontosun.com/news/national/bonokoski-troubling-smoke-signals-one-ontario-reserve-already-has-26-pot-shops
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    That's pretty obvious, to say the least. Giggling beats dying any day.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    I guess it's easy to pay lip service to First Nations sovereignty until it actually gets in the way of taking people's money.
     
  17. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Me too.

    Abner and I agreed about something!!!
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Johann, I should specify that I was referring to policymakers, not you!
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  20. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

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