Marijuana Legalization

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Oct 31, 2016.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    You can also try edibles, that way you don't have to smoke it! Good medicine!
     
  2. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    I will let you know how it is going. I am on some serious meds so if i can drop any then i will report back to DI.
     
  3. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Ok! Should be ok since weed is organic!
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Don't believe it, Abner. "Organic" means NOTHING in this case. Many "organic" substances can interfere with medications or act in concert with them to create bad - or even disastrous effects. E.G St. John's Wort - commonly used by herbal believers to relieve depression. It's usually OK on its own, I'm told, provided you can control the dosage (sometimes difficult with natural medicines, but we'll not get into that.) However, combine it with mainstream pharmaceutical meds and you can have a really bad potential situation. There are hundreds of such "organic" scenarios. Organic means it's produced from naturally-occurring substances - not that it's safe in all circumstances. From hippie days, I can remember a local drug dealer who was selling (supposedly) "organic" mescaline. Maybe it improved sales - I don't know. Back then, people would get high on anything. Maybe they still do - I'm out of touch with the drug world. But I do know that "Organic" is a much-misused word. It certainly does NOT mean "safe."

    PhDtobe is right. Do what your doctor says. Nothing is safe unless he /she says so. Most doctors ask patients what "natural" remedies etc. they're taking, for this very reason.
     
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  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    When it comes to agricultural products, the term "organic" typically means that it was produced (grown) without the use of artificial fertilizers and insecticides. So you could grow some organic conium maculatum (hemlock) and it would be quite dangerous indeed.
     
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  6. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    For sure I will be working with my doctor to see if CBD has any health benefits for me. My only research has been google, so I am cautiously optimistic.
     
  7. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    You may want to ask Dr. John Bear oil. I believe he has done some extensive research in the subject, and finds its benefits beneficial.
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed it does mean exactly that, Kizmet. Any other meaning - e.g. natural substances - is usually applied so that "(weed, etc.) dealer may sell for more." A much-misused word, in certain places.
     
  9. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Changes in the national level in the US may be in the works.

    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) says that President Trump intends to push to legalize medical marijuana nationwide after the midterm elections, and leave the regulation of recreational marijuana to the states.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/12/dana-rohrabacher-trump-to-legalize-medical-marijuana-after-midterms/

    (That's something that I've advocated for years.)

    If this happens, it will be a big blow to Canada. Since marijuana has been legalized on the federal scale in Canada but not in the United States, marijuana is in the process of becoming a hot new Canadian industry, fueled by big-time investment from the US. But... if marijuana stops being a schedule 1 drug in the US, that comparative advantage might go away.

    Apparently legalizing marijuana on the federal level can be done by the Executive Branch and doesn't require Congressional legislation:

    "The CSA [Controlled Substances Act] was signed into law by President Richard Nixon on October 27, 1970. The addition, deletion or change of schedule of a medicine or substance may be requested by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), the Department of Health and Human Services, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), or from any other party via petition to the DEA."

    https://www.drugs.com/csa-schedule.html

    One of the most notable things about the recent state legalization of marijuana here in California is that many of the customers have turned out to be seniors. Rep. Rohrabacher says, "I've always thought that seniors were going to be the biggest market for cannabis in the country," he continued. "The fact is, cannabis can be of assistance to them. Many of them have aches and pains, trouble with sleeping, or with lost appetite. We should be willing to let them be free to use things to affect those maladies that they have with age."

    Visiting a southern California marijuana dispensary with a busload of seniors from a retirement community, Rohrabacher remarked, "Do people still smoke joints?" he asked employees. "Fifty years ago, I was an expert on this."

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/16/republican-dana-rohrabacher-visits-accompanies-seniors-to-marijuana-dispensary-pot/
     
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  10. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Day 1 of legal Cannabis in Canada! People are very happy. This just goes to show how ridiculous was prohibition.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    FDA approves drug 10 times more powerful than Fentanyl

    https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/news/20181018/fda-panel-oks-stronger-opioid-despite-concerns?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark#1
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - sufentanil has been around about as long as fentanyl - and used in hospitals for a long time. Carfentanil is much stronger than either - 10,000 times (!) stronger than the same unit of morphine. As noted in this link, there is some concern about its potential use as a weapon of mass destruction.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfentanil
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Marijuana has been legal for 3 or 4 days here and the sky hasn't fallen yet. The only place you can buy it legally in Ontario is the Government-run website and they got 100,000 orders in 24 hours. Police haven't been raiding the illegal "dispensaries" yet. There is some call for them to do so in Toronto, but no sign of action yet. Here, 50 miles away, there seems to be a storefront selling the green stuff on just about every corner. Licensed private sellers don't come till next spring - and municipalities can "opt out" of having those. I think mine will, but no pot-smokers are worried about it. I think it will be business as usual for the illegal - let's call them "unlicensed" sellers for quite some time - maybe forever. The government has clearly messed this up - I would expect no less of them.

    If they'd sold marijuana through their existing liquor stores - they could have made a ton of money. Now they won't.
     
  17. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Vivo Canada! Let’s hope that marijuana legalization can reduce the nightmare from prescription drugs death. Marijuana has been used for thousands of years, but 100 years ago prohibition, such stupidity. I do have concerns for edibles falling into the hands of children by mistake.
     
  18. Kizmet

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