Marijuana Legalization

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Oct 31, 2016.

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  2. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    The only obstacle I foresee professionally for legalization is post-accident drug testing. Right now, marijuana accounts for nearly all of the positive results following workplace accidents. It's great that they are developing weed breathalizers, but there are ways to ingest marijuana besides smoking it. As long as we can distinguish between "currently under the influence" and "used this drug a while ago but it is still in his/her system" I'm cool. But that's a big question to answer in jobs where people are driving heavy equipment around one another.
     
  3. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    FYI - check out the latest Department of Labor rulings on post-accident drug testing. There's some game changers on the horizon.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  5. Vonnegut

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  6. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Not sure why the hyperlink takes you to the Sault Sainte Marie Police Department?? Oh, they must be offering directions as a courtesy!

    Or... for you cynical types...

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  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I know you're going for funny there, but there's actually an awful lot of this happening in adult education and higher education. When it comes to cannabis, it's very clear that the prohibitionists have lost and all that's happening now in terms of legislation and regulation is mopping up.
     
  8. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Perhaps I’m merely pragmatic, but I don’t really see it as the prohibitionist losing as much as I see the progress as a reflection of people just coming to their senses with a realistic regulatory environment.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Those who want cannabis to be prohibited used to face no meaningful public opposition to their position and now face a seemingly inevitable federal rescheduling of it so that states that legalize it are in the clear. That's a lot different than a mere change of regulatory environment, that's the consequence of a sea change in public opinion. I'm unsure how it's "pragmatic" not to see that.
     
  10. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    There is no one to my knowledge who would earnestly advocate that the previous prohibitionist approach was working. I do believe that it is pragmatic to recognize or acknowledge that and to transition the regulatory environment towards what we are now witnessing. A wild assortment of decriminalization, medical usage, recreational usage, dispensaries, etc. The industry is still highly regulated though and for many reasons, it likely will remain highly regulated.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    The new frontier is mushrooms. I don't know anyone who has used this drug and so I have no real frame of reference as to whether this is a good idea or not. I know they're now using Ketamine to treat depression and using Ecstasy for treatment of PTSD. I don't know where this all goes. Maybe these drugs are no worse than some of the other drugs handed out by Psychiatrists. That's not my thing.

    https://www.uptoboston.com/legal-magic-mushrooms-is-massachusetts-ready-for-them/
     
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  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  13. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Can ya'll keep posting more supportive statements? Pretty sure I might be up for a bonus, if I can provide a few more names this month.

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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  15. Kizmet

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  16. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Read through that whole list, while they were all against decriminalization, I didn't see a single person who advocated that the previous prohibitionist approach was working.
    Yes, I fully agree that there was an awful lot of residual ignorance and authoritarianism.
     
  17. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bernie Sunders

    "We're going to provide help to the African-American, Latino, Native American community to start businesses to sell legal marijuana rather than let a few corporations control the legalized marijuana market."
     
  19. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    This is simply ridiculous. Some of the bigger players in the legal game now are already facing pressure against the tech money that's been pulling into the field. The Patagonia vests are already pushing everyone out.
     
  20. gramps

    gramps New Member

    I prefer to use and smoke CBD flowers for my chronic back pain. It helps me a lot.
     

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