IUFS nokh amol: see para. 4:2 and 6, or, enough already, or, Soma Thero died for you

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  1. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    GOVERNMENT OF ST. PETERSBURG



    COMMITTEE FOR SCIENCE AND HIGHER EDUCATION



    Smolny, St. Petersburg, 191060

    Tel: (812) 576-7160 Fax: (812) 576-7704

    E-mail: [email protected]

    http://www.gov.spb.ru

    OKPO 00021982 OKONH 97410 OKFS 13

    OKOGU 23010 OKOPF 81 OKATO 40298564000

    INN 7842005771 KPP 784201001



    Aug 05, 2005 ¹ 01-24/110

    To ¹ ___________ of _______





    Mr. XXXX X XXXXXXX,



    In reply to your inquiry to the Committee for Education with the Government of St. Petersburg regarding the official status of the "International University of Fundamental Studies", a non-governmental educational institution of higher vocational education, I can provide you with the following information.



    1. The "International University of Fundamental Studies" (MUFO), a non-governmental educational institution of higher vocational education, was created in St. Petersburg in 1998 following the established process. The University Charter was registered according to the decision ¹121618 by the Registration Chamber of St. Petersburg of October 29, 1998. Government registration certificate ¹76034, OGRN 1037843032501. A new edition of the MUFO Charter has been registered following the established process by the Interregional Inspection Office ¹ 9 for St. Petersburg of the Ministry of Taxation and Levies of the Russian Federation. A Record Certificate of the United Government Registry of Legal Entities issued for updates made to foundation documents was registered on August 25, 2004 by the Interregional Inspection Office ¹ 9 for St. Petersburg of the Ministry of Taxation and Levies of the Russian Federation, government registration number 2047839023296.



    2. The institution was registered by the Registration Chamber of St. Petersburg on October 29, 1998, decision ¹121618, at the following legal address in accordance with its Charter: 191065, St. Petersburg, 61 Fontanka Quay (naberezhnaya r. Fontanki, d. 61).



    3. MUFO holds a valid license, Serial Number A ¹ 101625 (registration ¹D313) of April 21, 2003, issued by the Committee for Science and Higher Education of the Administration of St. Petersburg that gives it the right to conduct educational activity in the sphere of supplementary vocational education. The license is valid until April 21, 2008.



    The applicant has attached a copy of the title page of the License.



    The License in question has Appendix ¹1 that lists the following programs of supplementary vocational education:

    - International Business Administration and Environmental Management, courses in vocational retraining for specialists with a post-secondary vocational training, instruction periods 1,448 hrs and 1,198 hrs respectively;

    - Clinical Laboratory Diagnostics, Computing and Information Systems, Economics and Management, and Foreign (English) Language, courses in professional development for specialists with a secondary or post-secondary vocational training, instruction periods 144, 386, 294, and 274 hrs respectively.



    4. MUFO has the right to issue vocational retraining diplomas, professional development certificates, and short-term professional development certificates, certified with the stamp of the educational institution, to those students who have successfully completed training programs listed in the License and passed the final certification.



    One should keep in mind that vocational retraining diplomas issued by MUFO cannot be considered post-secondary (secondary) vocational education diplomas.



    5. MUFO's rights to issue international diplomas and other educational documents are determined by legal standards of appropriate academic and university communities and associations, as it is common in most foreign countries. Obtaining information on such rights held by MUFO is beyond the area of jurisdiction and responsibility of the Committee for Science and Higher Education of the Government of St. Petersburg.



    6. At the present time, due to non-compliance with the license control guidelines and under the Act ¹74 "On License Suspension of the "International University of Fundamental Studies", a non-governmental educational institution of higher vocational education" of the Committee for Science and Higher Education of August 1, 2005, MUFO's license giving it the right to conduct educational activity has been suspended for the period between August 15, 2005 and January 15, 2006, pending actions by Rector Sh. P. Jayasekara needed to correct such violations of license requirements and conditions.





    A. D. Viktorov

    Chairman of the Committee for Science

    and Higher Education



    signature in place




    Exec. by N. T. Kostina

    576-75-39
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    At the present time, due to non-compliance with the license control guidelines and under the Act ¢à74 "On License Suspension of the "International University of Fundamental Studies", a non-governmental educational institution of higher vocational education" of the Committee for Science and Higher Education of August 1, 2005, MUFO's license giving it the right to conduct educational activity has been suspended for the period between August 15, 2005 and January 15, 2006, pending actions by Rector Sh. P. Jayasekara needed to correct such violations of license requirements and conditions.





    A. D. Viktorov

    Chairman of the Committee for Science

    and Higher Education



    signature in place




    Exec. by N. T. Kostina

    576-75-39

    What this meens:
    They no longer can provide the following:

    State accreditation of non-university level higher education establishments is conducted by the state managerial bodies of the constituent parts of the Russian Federation (subjects of the Russian Federation) in charge of education on the territory of which these institutions are located, with the participation of the ministries concerned.

    i.e vocational education (nachalnoe professionalnoe obrazovanie);
    non-university level higher education (srednee professionalnoe obrazovanie);
    Educational institutions for non-university level higher education are generally known as Tekhnikums or Uchilishcha. Since 1989, a new type of institution has emerged, namely, the College. Colleges can be independent educational institutions or constituent parts of a university, academy, or institute. They offer educational programmes of non-university level higher education of advanced type as well as two-year programmes leading to the award of the Intermediate Diploma. At present, there are 679 colleges in the country.

    The rest international thing they were involved is crap.
    And has no value what so ever.


    Learner
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    One graduate they had

    Degree Holders in 2003/2004

    Amr Mohamed Sadik (Syria)

    Sounds familiar?.

    Well the same agent that busted SRU ring with a little modofocation in his name.

    Knok knok
    who is next this aint over yet.

    Learner
     
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  4. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    "the rest...is crap"

    That it is, Learner, that it is.
     
  5. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    This message seems to leave little doubt about IUFS' status. It has a business license and BPPVE-like approval to offer non-degree vocational programs. And apparently even that limited approval has been subsequently revoked.

    Just to nail everything down, what's the provenance of this e-mail?
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Excuse me while a dance a jig. Okay, I don't really know what a jig is so I'll have to just dance for joy.
     
  7. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    SEE: http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/z3jig.htm

    Though I'm not offering this as a substitute for said provenance provided directly by Janko, the opening sentence:
    • In reply to your inquiry to the Committee for Education with the Government of St. Petersburg regarding the official status of the "International University of Fundamental Studies"...
    seems to suggest that Janko sent an inquiry email to the St. Petersburg government's Comittee for Science and Higher Education, and this was their reply. No?
     
  8. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    dead yeti from the salon des refuses

    No. It was seen on another forum and I was so struck by something anti-mill appearing there that I had to drag the carcase over to be inspected. Sort of like a dead yeti found among the kulturfeindlich. Authentic? That would ***require*** back-checking with Mr Viktorov or Ms Kostina. But it looks plausible.

    Perhaps the Xes in the salutation give a hint who elicited this?
    But it was not me and I do not know who it was.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Re: dead yeti from the salon des refuses

    the same person then posted the following:

    enfamill

    Then explain why Dr. Shanti said his IUFS can offer Doktor Nauk (State Format degree) by the authority of his IHEC.


    Dear XX XXXX XXXXXXX,

    IUFS have MVAK ( International Higher Examination Council) and have permission to awards Doktor nauk
    Degrees. Ministry of Educational VAL (State Examination Council) and they are awarding state Degrees.

    President gave permission to work commercial and non-commerrcial as well as state institutions to grant these degrees.

    We are member of the Moscow International InterAcademic Union (MMC) where we have desstaion Board approved
    by the MVA at MMC. Lot of state universties are also offer Doctor Nauk degrees under MMC.

    Kind regards,

    Sincerely,

    Dr. Shanti
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    One red flag is in the original post.

    That is the license suplement is clear that no certificates can be awarded, its blank in the fields were it states certificate or degree.

    So i think there is a posibility that maybe this letter is not acurate or fake.

    I don't know this is pure speculation.

    learner
     
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  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    put up or shut up, pal

    It won't hurt my feelings if the thing proves spurious.

    But I do wonder this: after spending so much time ostensibly trying to show that IUFS is a joke, your immediate reaction to a purported document demonstrating the same is to question its authenticity. Since you know Russian, why don't YOU contact Viktorov or whomever and check the thing out? But then, that doesn't fit too well with the pattern of inanely blurred signals, does it?
     
  11. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: put up or shut up, pal

    Yeah, bay-bee! Now that's what I'm talkin' about! ;)

    You should probably specify, though, precisely which Lerner you were addressing. :p (Ohgod... [sigh]... I tickle myself.)
     
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  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Re: put up or shut up, pal

    AJ

    I have no interest in that entety preriod.

    And my comment was after yours when you sujestedhat it was from another site and unverified.

    The other site couple months ego had the suplement published and no were in that suplement it had the athority to award any certificates.

    Simply pointing this out.

    Gregg would you stop with your double vision
    What ever you are smokking or you are on :)

    Learner (The holi trinity) :)
     
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  13. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    If I were on an internet forum where my spelling and grammar were constantly being criticized I would undoubtedly find myself sitting in front of my computer with a dictionary, checking every word before posting. Or I would write it in Word and spell-check the thing before pasting it into the forum, or something like that. With all that being said, it seems to me that the spelling in Lerner's postings is actually getting worse as time goes on.
    It's so bad it's almost, almost, almost like it's deliberate. :rolleyes:
    Jack
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    one's ass, one's elbow, and knowing the difference

    OK, Learner, you win.

    You post incessantly about IUFS but you say you have no interest in IUFS. You challenge the veracity of something I post--you who could either verify or disprove (and I would be happy if you did either one)--but then duck the opportunity to do that and resort to more verbiage.

    What do you win? The coveted title of "troll"!

    You (or yuns/y'all) make no sense. You veer from utterly incoherent broken English to standard English and back again. And Gregg upsets you. There's three good reasons to think you're just a troll. I have tried to respond to you with good will (however many of you there are). I give up. Your motives are unclear, your posts are incoherent, your constructive contributions negligible.

    So, my friend from Cernauti, basta!

    As it says in the Apocalypse, "because you are neither hot nor cold I spew you out of my mouth."

    Janko Preotul
     
  15. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: one's ass, one's elbow, and knowing the difference

    And VAE... ad nauseam, in both cases.

    Which none of us have ever really believed... just like we don't really believe that Lerner and Rector aren't different people; and just like we don't believe that Lerner and Azad aren't one-in-the-same.

    Which most of us have known for a long time, hence my reluctance to lift my knee up off his/her/their chest/s.

    Or trolls, plural, as the case may be.

    And suspended disbelief.

    And that's being kind.

    No! Say it isn't so, Jack! You don't mean... I mean... you're not saying, are you... that the real Lerner (or Rector or Azad) is actually someone we all know well; that his English is actually as good anyone's here and that his broken English thing is just a big ruse to keep skilled -- ne, gifted -- linguists like 3$Bill from recognizing who he really is; that Lerner is, in fact, just another troublemaker from The Crabby Forum or, worse, from AED where the heinously foul and horrendous postings made by someone using the "Lerner" handle there are, in fact, from him, as I suspected all along; Lerner, in fact, hates this place, what it stands for and espouses, and, most of all, us for espousing it; that he's learned how to restrain himself when posting here so he won't be thrown out; and that my having pointed-out the huge difference between the two types of Lerner postings around here has rattled him/her/them and he/she/they are now overcompensating by dumbing-down his/her/their postings even more so that the Lerner-intended illusion that his "not so good, my English" will be further driven home? Say it isn't so, Jack! Say it isn't so!

    Lerner. [sigh] Can't live with him; can't kill him... at least not without going to prison, as least as I've been able to figure out so far. But, don't worry... I'm workin' on it. (Kidding! Er... well... you know... sort of.)
     
  16. marilynd

    marilynd New Member

    Re: Re: one's ass, one's elbow, and knowing the difference

    GREGG!

    I didn't know you had such a homicidal streak.

    It's sort of . . .

    . . . attractive . . .

    . . . . . . . . . sort of.

    :p

    marilynd
     
  17. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: Re: Re: one's ass, one's elbow, and knowing the difference

    Well... maybe in a paintball gun sort of way. Squirt pistols at dawn... that sort of thing... you know.

    Stop it! Don't toy with me! I've already been fighting-off being attracted to you. After all, I just love a woman with a nice, big set of...

    ...brains. ;)
     
  18. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: one's ass, one's elbow, and knowing the difference

    Now, now, DesElms!
     
  19. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: one's ass, one's elbow, and knowing the difference

    Hey... I didn't cross the line. I might have danced on it a bit and gotten it all smudged-up and stuff... but I didn't cross it! ;)
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Who is Learner?

    Learner is someone who posts in this forum.

    And as I mentioned in other posts he is the "Troll" of convenientcy
    when there are no more trolls left.

    Some people actually like Learner but they can't admit this in public so what they do they invent the theory of multiple Learners this way they can say hey I was deceived and I really didn't like learner.

    I have no hard feelings and do get from this forum what I come for.
    That’s what counts the most, to me.

    No I don't post in AED, I don't visit there and hate that site.

    Rector I know him and at times he copies my stuff, I think this is in a way deliberately and I don't care really, he is having fun now.
    He used to post here in the past.

    Now there was a time when I had interest in IUFS and I expressed it here, but to day I have non what so ever.

    During the time when I did I sent number of letters to many places, Ministry local and Federal etc.
    Once I learner more I lost interest.

    VAE is excellent way to recognize work experience and I support it
    as long as its done according to the law.

    I respect most of you here and what you stand for.

    I do have deferent take on some of the issues and when its nit exactly to majority liking it then nothing I can do about it.

    Have a good night.

    Learner
     

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