IUFS nokh amol: see para. 4:2 and 6, or, enough already, or, Soma Thero died for you

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  1. uncle janko

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  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    TW
     
  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

  4. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

  5. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: Re: sympathy for the "underdog"???

    Uh, huh.

    Uh, huh.

    Lerner, the words -- your words -- are right there in black and whi... er... I mean... black and sort-of-slate-blue for everyone to read and interpret for themselves. We know how to recognize a shot at Dr. Bear when we read one! The thing speaks for itself. If you, on the other hand, meant something else but it just didn't come across the way you meant it because your English is so not-so-good, then that would be your fault, wouldn't it?

    What you are, Lerner, is out of your league, here. Have you not gotten that yet?

    Uh, huh. And when was that whole exposing thing gonna' happen, anyway? You keep threatening, but...

    You're projecting again.

    So, then, why don't you turn yourself in. There's an FBI office, I promise you, very near where you live.

    Listen, Lerner... if it's really true that you're the misunderstood nice guy with good intentions that you say you are; and if it's true that my assessment of you is just all wrong, then may I propose something? How 'bout you and I enter into some peace talks. Seriously. How 'bout we enter into some offline, private communications -- maybe even over the phone -- and try to figure out how to get along. I'm serious. We can set up some rules and agree to the details... and at least one of the rules will be that nothing we say or write to one another can be disclosed by either of us publicly unless we both agree that it can. No matter what! In other words, even if our talks fail and we end-up right back here taking swings at one another, no amount of anger will make it right for either of us to disclose here anything here unless the other person grants permission. That means that even if I learn your true identity as part of our talks, I cannot, no matter how upset I might get in here with you, disclose it because it was something learned by me during our "peace talks"; and because doing so would violate said "peace talks'" rules.

    Whatdya' say, Lerner? Seriously. We can get to know one another. We might actually find out that we're not three-headed monsters and that there might actually be something worth liking about one another. Heck, we might even end-up being friends.

    So... whatdya' think? Wanna' give it a try... I mean and honest-to-god, good-faith, no-games try? Hmm?
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: sympathy for the "underdog"???

    Gregg my English skills got better, some of it I attribute to posting here and all the exchange we have.

    I took a English composition class, well my older son had the books so I just practice.

    This is all there is to it and not multiple Learners.
     
  7. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    What about my proposal? You summarily ignored it.

    Let me repeat, just in case you missed it:
    • Listen, Lerner... if it's really true that you're the misunderstood nice guy with good intentions that you say you are; and if it's true that my assessment of you is just all wrong, then may I propose something? How 'bout you and I enter into some peace talks. Seriously. How 'bout we enter into some offline, private communications -- maybe even over the phone -- and try to figure out how to get along. I'm serious. We can set up some rules and agree to the details... and at least one of the rules will be that nothing we say or write to one another can be disclosed by either of us publicly unless we both agree that it can. No matter what! In other words, even if our talks fail and we end-up right back here taking swings at one another, no amount of anger will make it right for either of us to disclose here anything here unless the other person grants permission. That means that even if I learn your true identity as part of our talks, I cannot, no matter how upset I might get in here with you, disclose it because it was something learned by me during our "peace talks"; and because doing so would violate said "peace talks'" rules.

      Whatdya' say, Lerner? Seriously. We can get to know one another. We might actually find out that we're not three-headed monsters and that there might actually be something worth liking about one another. Heck, we might even end-up being friends.

      So... whatdya' think? Wanna' give it a try... I mean and honest-to-god, good-faith, no-games try? Hmm?
    Why didn't you respond to that? Or maybe you're still thinking about it. That's fair. Just let me know when/if you'd like to work things out. You keep saying you're an okay guy. And I already know I'm an okay guy. So it seems to me if both those things are true, then we should be able to bury the hatchet somehow... someplace other than in one another's heads, that is.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Sounds fair
    I'm half way a sleep,so maybe may head will work better tommorow.
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    OK, Lerner, let's see what you do with Gregg's offer. I am sure that he will let us know when that is appropriate to both of you.

    Mine will for starters be more specific:
    1) you apologise publicly for calling Carl Reginstein a Nazi and Kluxer.
    2) you apologise publicly for saying DesElms runs a mill
    3) you apologise publicly for saying I post on aed to make you look bad
    4) you investigate that letter from St Petersburg and determine whether it's authentic or not, and let us know
    5) you start a new thread with your apologies so that it's not buried on some other thread. If your apologies are fake, I want them where everybody can see them. If your apologies are real, BOTH you and I want them where everybody can see them.

    That's for starters. What you and DesElms work out privately is none of my business. What you post here, publicly, is.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member



    UJ who the hell do you think you are!

    I was the one who was attacked so I don't have plans to apologies, I don't care what you think of me I really don’t, you already demonstrated more than I need to know about how objective and intolerable to me you are.

    You can criticize me 24 x 7, it means noting if its lies isn’t it.
    To you it means your credibility, my credibility thanks to you is already damaged.

    carl last Sunday posted reply to my post when I stated that I work with developers who are from India and he called themtheir kind.
    Later he posted - I quote" I Rasist Peeg" and somthing about you and him luteran or well I need to find that post.
    i would expect from you to go after him, but look at this you go after me.

    I do have credability in sight of many who are objective people and willing to be patient.
    I don't come here to fight mills like you I come here for intelligent exchange of information, and as many here I wouldn't want people to be victims of mills.

    I wouldn’t want legitimate schools and people whose well their livelihood depends and they provide for their families by working in such school.

    I'm not a degree police but a LEARNER.

    If you accuse me than expect the same flying back.

    At this junction I don't need your BS and instructions.
    If the mediator cuts my access to the group I will deal with that
    and the people who visit here will loose an objective voice and opinion.

    Learner
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Please note that Learner's righteous indignation is amusing at best. He comes on here and defends degree mills then denies that he's done so. He comes on here and posts English that is practically unreadable. The quality of his English swings back and forth from post to post like a pendelum, sometimes even paragraphs within his post. He makes excuses for the ridiculous swings in quality of his posts that would insult the intelligence of an eight year old. He has already clearly demonstrated that his words are hollow meaningless.
     
  12. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Credibility? I don't think so!

    Lerner, you have clearly promoted degree mills, attacked others to obfuscate, plagiarized, and I would guess Gregg's suggestion you are multiple people is true. You do, in deed, owe this forum an apology at the very minimum.
     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    votnever

    My question's been answered from please pity me to who the hell are you.

    Okie dokie. As my late uncle Asher (z.l.) used to say, "votnever".

    So: it's OK to call Carl a Nazi. It's OK to call Gregg a millist.

    And "degree police" is a Crabb-forum term. What a surprise.

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    And, mes enfants, like clockwork more "Aunt Junco" silliness on aed.
    Surprised? No, I knew you weren't, kindlekh. You're smart kids.
     
  15. Re: votnever

    This loser ("Lerner" or whatever) can call me whatever he wants to call me. I rather enjoy seeing him decompose before my very eyes..... In fact, bring it on! The more absurb ad-hominems the better. Whereas the ad-hominems I toss his way are ALL entirely justified and have seemingly provoked this cretin to even further absurdities.....

    On the other hand, I tire of this one-sided challenge...

    Lerner/Azad, get ready for a nice cell somewhere when the Secret Service investigation catches up to YOU.

    At the same time, I wonder what ever will become of the SRU "stooges" - Dennis Chandler, Bob Stefaniak, and perhaps even John Dovelos..... from what I can tell, they were all just "students" of SRU who were co-opted into stumping for the "school" after they needed desperately to convince themselves (first), and then the world (long shot) that their so-called degrees were real in any way known to man......

    And what role does that Danzig chick play in all this, with her fake certification service out of Sunrise (a rather seedy neighborhood of greater Fort Lauderdale, suiting perfectly such an equally seedy operation)....?
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Mr Bull Halfman

    I'm not coming here to defend diploma mills, how can diploma mills be ABET accredited :)

    Are you out of your mind or just rubber stamp of UJ.

    This is nonsense and readers know that you see they know what I post about, so when you make your false accusations please get you facts strait.
    This is character assassination technique you use or simply uneducated and blatant lie from you.

    Please next time don’t insult reader’s intelligence

    I know you need a shill to feel good and justify , but I’m not what you are looking fore.


    Learner




    Learner
     
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  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: votnever

    What if I'm the investigator??

    TW
    :mad:
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Re: votnever

    UJ, your friend Carl called him self a NAZI, I didnd call gregg milis
    I didnt think he was from Romania when i was talking about the Feds looking for a fake degree sales man from Romania.

    You do a good job by eliminating competiton.

    This was the reason you were so happy to run here and post, copy from the other site that you so despite.

    Uncle Sam is watching.
    Carl you too.

    Learner
     
  19. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Ugghhhh,

    More attacks and garbage from "Lerner". I would say time to give him a time out.
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Dave,

    Time out for me.
    is there any for my attackers?

    Interesting justice isn’t it?

    I can't defend my self?


    Learner
     

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