Is feminism ruining gender relations in society?

"Mr. White knight troll?" Whoa, a nickname like that could stick with a person.

Besides, I remember the last time a prominent member flamed Stanislav. Gee, I wonder whatever happened to that guy.

 

Remember that in the case of married women, the wallets are 50% owned by the women and 50% by the men.

 

Yeah I believe that's correct.

 

And remember that not all women are in favor of abortion. Ask a woman who is married with children about her views on abortion and she will wonder which of her lovely children she should have aborted. Better yet, ask your own mother why she didn't abort you. I did. In China and/or India, they have sex-selective abortions (abort the female babies so you can have your 1 child be a boy). So there are some interesting twists.

 

Gender preference probably has to do with gender division and with avoiding the costs of female hygeine products...

Regarding women's rights in general, being part of the manosphere myself, I been hearing a lot of pressuring issues on the instances of suffrage and the welfare state.

Honestly, the argument is that women vote with a care-based morality rather than a justice based morality. Also, another thing to take note, the partisanship among women has worsened more than that of women.

Abortion and other reproductive rights come at the debate more of responsibility anyways, but who knows.

 

This is one instance where we agree.

 

Cool, no matter how much some hardcore manosphere supporters pressure me or others into taking women's rights away, I will not 100% agree with them, but I always see the points they make. I will pretend and act like I agreed, just so that I can keep continuing to be in the manosphere. Also, why take suffrage away when the government raped our country already? Is too late to go back at this point.

Feminism has only been mainstream technically the last 20 years anyways, but the radical kind moreso the last 10-15 years in my opinion. Now I am aware the various waves that have generated the last give it about 5 decades or so, but they are only mainstreaming seriously moreso each and every other generation. An example of how feminism has been only very mainstream as of recently would be the manspreading trope, would you hear that during the first few women's rights movements? I don't think so.

 

Also unlike some anti feminists, at least I myself try to understand the legit needs of feminist causes

So like ok cool, women should own property, women should have personal autonomy, women should even vote.


But you also need to get a glimpse on how the family structure in a lot of developed Caucasian Western nations (I say Caucasian as in countries where whites are the majority) has only gone down the drain in my opinion for the worse.

Think about it, you can just abuse about every safety net program out there raising your child with junk food and video games, I mean that isn't responsible and proper raising at all, but who cares.

Debating as to what kind of patriarchy(soft patriarchy, medium patriarchy or hard patriarchy) would be necessary for this is real hard.

Notice though how nations where feminism has barely even taken its toll, that the family dynamic is still pretty strong and divorce rates are still very low.

Look at the divorce rates across the developed world at least, and see that the US ranks both overall and in the category of the developed world.

 

I don't think he got it.

 

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Also why is the edit button so limited????

 

Primarily to aggravate people.

 

I think I'm ready to vote this the most convoluted thread ever on DI. Ever.

And just think - we traded in the pontifications of me again for this.

 

Since we're going for convoluted here, I'll pull this thread onto anotheranotheranother tangent. This is in regards to the banning of me again. Moderators ban spammers all the time and we do it without consulting anyone. However, all the Mods decided quite some time ago that regular members, especially long(ish)-term members, would not be banned unilaterally by one Moderator. Instead, we consult with each other and reach a consensus on a course of action. In the most recent case of me again this consultation coincidentally included Chip and it was Chip who actually pushed the ban button. Now the recommendation was to ban me again for 30 days and that's what Chip said he did. Now maybe you'll be shocked to learn that I don't really remember when he was banned and so right this second I don't know when the 30 period ends. Maybe he'll come back after serving his 30 days in exile. Maybe not. I've seen to go both ways. The point of all this is - maybe we will soon have both me again and his pontifications and the pearls of wisdom from Lucky. It's good to have things that we can look forward to. Future fun.

 

What does this even mean??? I assume you mean confusing???

 

Well then sorry I been giving deep thoughts it is simply because I been passionate about studying the movement a bit as of late and its effects onto society. I have become so negatively obsessed with feminism to the point where now I understand the movement better at least and don't just go rambling on about how feminism is a cacer.

Having been raised why a feminist mother(thankfully she isn't a hardcore type, I will say she's more of factual feminist), this should explain a bit too.


Shit I even watched a VHS tape on the women's rights movement years ago.

 

Women staying at home taking care of children were not meant to be seen as lesser roles of that of men working in factories. It was supposed to be the different sides on the same coin during its evolutionary period. I will venture to say that raising children has to one of life’s greatest satisfaction. Because of more conducive technologies, it is only a matter of time when there will be more women in the workforce earning higher wages than men. Guess who will taking care of the children, men. I don’t think there is anything wrong with feminism. However, a few of these theories are just too spurious to be taken seriously.

 

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I think that's already hapenning bud, maybe not at the rate you would expect. But even then genderlessness has a higher chance of happening before that wish happens at a rate of 99%

 

Genderlessness seems antithetical to feminism.

 

Also another thing to take note of, your wish will not really ever come true. The biological differences of handling stress are and will always be here. Male leaders are just able to handle stress much better, from a biological perspective anyways. Plus, the professional world is being killed with technology so....