Fact Sheets President Trump’s Historic Coronavirus Response Healthcare

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Hilarious, that one.
     
  3. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Active Member

    Yeah, we know!

    Trump is by far the biggest badass of all time - see the cartoons of Ben Garrisson - and he would have personally fired every COVID-19 virus who dares to interfere with his greatness if those libtards, commies et cetera would not have been annoying him the whole goddamned time!!

    Compare this to a bore like the Angela Merkel. No drama. Sucks completely.
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The Times found 14 states where more than half of total deaths occurred in facilities for the elderly. It was 55 percent in Connecticut, 57 percent in Colorado, North Carolina and Kentucky, 58 percent in Virginia, 59 percent in Massachusetts, 61 percent in Delaware, 66 percent in Pennsylvania, 73 percent in Rhode Island and 80 percent in West Virginia and Minnesota.

    The states with the most nursing-home deaths, New York and New Jersey, didn’t make the list because of so many other deaths, yet more than 10,000 people died in their facilities. The 5,500 nursing-home deaths in New York are more than the total deaths in all other states except New Jersey.
     
  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    20% of all Covid19 cases and deaths in the world were citizens of the USA yet only 4% of the worlds population are USA citizens. From that it can be calculated that Trump is responsible for 4/5 of the USA deaths, 240,000 *4/5 = 192,000 of the 240,000 USA citizens deaths. Now Lerner's argument is apparently that they are old people so not worth as much? So how much should we reduce the 192,000 deaths for a fair comparison, Lerner?
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Please reread my post and show where did I say such a thing about elderly? Where did I say elderly people not worth as match?
    Its your governors who are responsible for their deaths, not President Trump who you are so desperately trying to accuse.
    Times investigated and concluded that states are responsible.

    For last 6 months or so the kings are Governors and mayors to whom president Trump offered almost unlimited support. Red and Blue .
    The Times found 14 states where more than half of total deaths occurred in facilities for the elderly. It was 55 percent in Connecticut, 57 percent in Colorado, North Carolina and Kentucky, 58 percent in Virginia, 59 percent in Massachusetts, 61 percent in Delaware, 66 percent in Pennsylvania, 73 percent in Rhode Island and 80 percent in West Virginia and Minnesota.

    The states with the most nursing-home deaths, New York and New Jersey, didn’t make the list because of so many other deaths, yet more than 10,000 people died in their facilities. The 5,500 nursing-home deaths in New York are more than the total deaths in all other states except New Jersey.
    The Covid 19 is politicized in order to attack president Trump.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I have no clue what the relevance of the retirement home stuff was then?

    Let's say for arguments sack that it is the governors' fault. At the very least the federal government should have laid out standards of care then been monitoring the situation and stepped in to correct those situations that were not being handled properly. This couldn't be done because there was no standards laid out and all the monitoring was to just tabulate deaths. Therefore, the federal government should at the very least share responsibility.

    What apparently started off your tirade trying to inadequately defend the indefensible was my description as to why my life long Republican wife had to vote for Biden. I should add to that story that I was not involved in her coming to the obvious conclusion that Trump bore significant responsibility for the covid19 mess in this country. She gets most of her news from watching Taiwan TV. They actually prefer Trump to Biden there because they generally feel that Trump is harder on China than Biden would be and Taiwan is very sensitive to those issues. They also feel that Trump is a bit of a foolish buffoon and has handled the pandemic horribly. Taiwan is one of the best countries in the world for how they have handled the pandemic. They don't even have to wear masks anymore and there hasn't been a locally transmitted covid19 case there in months.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Your left media mob, surely helped to create that image.
    This is not the truthful image but a political creation by the left.
    Still 71 Millions didn't fall for this.
    People are free to choose their leaders, I had no issue with you mentioning your wife voted for
    Biden.
    And by the way the left media mob and the High Teck corporations created the shill.
    Many on the right think that shill is Biden.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2020
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is nonsense. No other modern democracy approached the pandemic like that, and almost all of them have had better outcomes than ours. This take--the one where Trump abandoned the fight--is the CAUSE of our miserable results.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Disagree, US is testing much more then other countries, we don't have reliable #'s from many other countries.

    Virus is a serious issue but now it will stop being a big issue. why is it gonna stop being a big issue? Because they don’t want to lay it off on Biden.
    November 9th, 2020, 10:30 a.m., a screen grab of CNN’s main page. Not a single mention of corona virus! Its gonna stop being a big issue.

    So now we’ve got the announcement from Pfizer that their vaccine is 90% effective. This causes the stock market to jump an incredible amount.
    The Dow futures were up 1200 points. Pfizer, BioNTech, COVID-19 vaccine: 90% effective.
    Andrew Cuomo says, “No! Unless we can get this vaccine out of Trump’s hands and transfer it to Biden’s, we still shouldn’t trust it.”
    It’s all about whether Dem's succeed in persuading people that Biden had more to do with the creating and the shepherding of the vaccine than Trump did.
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You keep ignoring the facts, Lerner. The facts are that by any measure the pandemic is worse in the USA than most other places in the world. Leading epidemic experts like Fauci say it is because of there not being a coordinated response here in the USA. The right media mob with Trump at the helm has twisted your reality into blaming these simple facts on the left media! That is ridiculous.
     
  12. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Technically you could say that Biden warrants the credit for the Pfizer vaccine and it would be as accurate as Ivanka's claim of it being because of her father's Warp Speed operation!

    Personally, I think it's a great success story for a team of remarkable scientists and humanity.
     
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  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Indeed, I will not argue with you on that.
    The great team of scientists, and rewards are sweet, saving human lives and also enjoy profits.
     
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  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member



    President Trump Address To The Nation | 4pm Eastern

    Great job president Trump and the team.

     
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Not sure what the president (or his team) did here. We do know that he's been whining about Pfizer's announcement coming after the election. You know, because it's all about him.
     
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    In the speech, Trump claimed the Pfizer effort was part of the administration's "Operation Warp Speed." It was not. This is a lie.

    Pfizer made it clear today that their research was not funded by the government.

    Pfizer did say they had a deal in place for the government to pay for the vaccine so that, if Pfizer was able to develop one, it could be distributed free.

    So, other than agreeing to buy the vaccine if and when it was developed, not really sure what President Trump had to do with anything. But hey, that shouldn't matter, right? His modus operandi is to buy something and slap his name on it, so this isn't any different.

    So, yay! The government is going to buy and distribute the vaccine. That's a good thing. But let's not let our credit-grabbing narcissist get carried away, hmmm?
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bigger picture of task force in action since more then 6 months ago.
    And I think they did a good job and pointed also to failed policies for some Governors.
    Removing obstacles and red tape to get FDA priorities.
    The support they provided to all that requested.
    I know it hurts when actually people realize than this president did fight for them.
    And even if he is taking the credit as he should.
    I heard the Governors praise his support.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    100%. What Rich said.
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Please stop blaming governors. It's not only bad judgment, it's bad information.

    States have several disadvantages in dealing with this pandemic. The largest one is that they, unlike the federal government, cannot engage in deficit spending to deal with an emergent crisis.

    Trump failed the states and did so purposely by his own statements.
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think some wrong statements were made.
    But one family is saying after Trump declared that we sealed the country and doing well, the husband went on a cruise to Spain contracted Corona virus and passed away.
    How is President Trump guilty of that?
    Were news reported what is happening in Italy and Spain etc?
    But I also know he assembled a very good team and provided great support to all the states.
    There is a bigger issues about death and life that Dem's failed to handle, its the many deaths of unborn babies or babies killed after birth.
    What do they care about? To have the power and control that goes with that. Dems must stop anything good that he might accomplish for this nation.
    Hope GA Senate seat will be Republican.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2020

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