Democratic gunman tries to "kill as many Republicans as possible"

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by me again, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    1. Nope. You misrepresent Cruz quote that already misrepresent research findings.
    2. Same here. Nope.
    3. Inaccurate. Bernie Sanders is an Independent.
    You know you're waging an unwinnable battle when you resort to a numbered list of lies. How serious are you about the 9th Commandment?

    You know that's not what "colluding" mean, right? In any case, you are asking the variant of the same question over and over again: are you biased against foreigners? Am I making you uncomfortable? Will you feel better if I'm a member of wast international left-wing conspiracy?
  2. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    A "study" is what you conduct, a "report" is what you publish. You can "publish" a study in a book, book chapter, journal article, or a report (or a "working paper"). In this case, we have a study funded by Combating Terrorism Center at West Point and disseminated as a Combating Terrorism Center at West Point's working paper, or "report". It is absolutely allowed to cite your own research. What is not allowed is to bash a study based on who the author was. Go to the methodology and data collection section of the report and try poking holes in that. In this case, it's in Chapter 4. Data comes from law enforcement databases and news reports searched through Lexis-Nexis. I can't say how solid the conclusions are without reading in detail (and brushing up on stats), but it seems that all data points are independently documented. So we have hundreds of acts of political violence a year committed by the groups on the Right.

    Simple: because that particular study was not designed to study Left-wing terrorism :). I didn't analyze your anecdotes, but it seems that the majority can't be counted as "terrorism" as they did not seem to be designed to promote a particular ideology. One can write a study on the left-wing violent extremism (which absolutely exist); if you'll find one I'll read it. Academic experts seem to indicate it's currently not as prevalent as the right-wing extremism; it was not the case in the 70ies, at the height of the Cold War, when Soviets spent considerable dough on propaganda and direct support of the "freedom fighters". Here is an article on that:
    Fact Check: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising? : NPR
    Are these murderous thugs reflect on all Republicans, Conservatives, or even Trump supporters? No, in fact they do not. But me again started this thread trying to link "the Left" as a whole to violence. One who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones. Especially if it was your leader/idol who called for assassination of his opponent and not the other way around. I wish Bernie would tone down his "Revolution" rhetoric, but never, ever did he call for "Second Amendment people" to deal with Trump.
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  4. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    That's a good question.

    Rep. Ron DeSantis was nearly killed that day.
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  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Interesting to see you dredge up such an old thread just to agree with something our former resident QAnon aficionado said.
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  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Perhaps levelup is our current resident QAnon aficionado? The polls indicate that almost 25% of Republicans believe at least some key parts of QAnon.
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  7. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Oh, what happened to Me Again? Did he get picked up by a spaceship or something?

    And for the record, I didn't agree or disagree with his statement.
  8. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Bill, you don't know what political party I'm affiliated with.

    Now that you brought it up this QAnon thing, this is interesting. It looks like you joined this forum way back in 2001, around the same time as this Me Too person. You two were probably friends at some point. I bet there were plenty of times you quoted Me Too's posts and agreed with this person's statements.

    So do I need to do some research and pull up some quotes to bring back your memory?
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Someone got a quarter? There's a troll feed machine right over there....
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  10. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Judging by the memes you've posted recently, it's very obvious what political party you believe in. You don't have to say outright.
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  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'll feed the troll! Interesting how you link QAnon with joining the forum back in 2001. That was well before QAnon came to be. You must be a young-un? :)

    Sure I remember Me Again. What I remember most vividly was that he said I couldn't be patriotic and love America because I was a Democrat. That should be a good clue as to how often I agreed with his posts, at least here on the Political Discussions section of the forum. I'm not a moderator and wasn't around when he stopped posting. So, I'm not sure why he stopped posting. Although my suspicion is that perhaps he got banned from posting for not being able to play well with others? (I could do my own trolling here and paint his political affiliation as generally that type of folk that can't play well with others but I'll resist since I don't really believe that anyway. :) )
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - he did. Prayers were answered. .... and they could start again, if necessary.
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    There is more than one party that attracts people who post memes from the cultural right. The Republican, RTL, Constitution, and now (sadly) Libertarian parties come to mind.

    There are also a lot of people who self-identify as politically independent even though their views are much closer to one major party than the other.
  14. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Me again was banned for repeated attacks based on my country of origin. I do remember him being a genuine poster interested in DL. Before he fell off his rocker, that is.
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  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I wonder about DI's ability to detect posters who've returned under a different handle?
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  16. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I don't think it would be possible to really detect this after years. I mean an IP address might remain stable for a while but not years. You think the "Me Too" instead of "Me Again" was just a ruse? ;) The bottom line, IMHO, is that it doesn't really matter. :cool:
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  17. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    I am LevelUp on the sister board, for those that don't know.

    I didn't come here to start fights and screw up this community. I apologize if I offended anyone, and no hard feelings on my end for anything either.

    This whole QAnon thing is weird. Probably best to delete all these new posts and close this thread. FBI, if you are watching, I don't know this Me Again person.

    As far as the Political Discussions forum area, I think I'll just go into lurk mode, so I don't keep offending people.
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2022
  18. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Never thought of it that way.

    Wait...nope, still don't.
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's not 100% applicable, true, but on both forums it's a common reference for the other, so... [shrugs].
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