Brexit Vote Today

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Jun 23, 2016.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I hope they don't do it. Their population is really split, with older people favoring it and younger people preferring to stay.

    I'm afraid they'll lose Northern Ireland over this. Perhaps even Scotland.
     
  3. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    They did it! They are leaving.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    In my attempt at a crossover to another thread, I thought it was interesting to see Donald Trump, speaking in Scotland to an audience that voted solidly to remain in the EU, saying how great it was that Britain is leaving the EU. A great way for a politician to alienated an entire country in 5 minutes.
     
  5. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    Or to begin to sway them in the right direction....some would call it LEADERSHIP!
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    First of all, there's nothing that dictates "the right direction." Secondly, why would you think that the Scottish people see Donald Trump as a leader or care what he thinks. Their political leaders refused to meet with him during this visit. That's why his political tour (the Irish leaders refused to meet with him too) turned into an inspection tour of his golf courses:lame: Finally, if he actually wanted to provide some leadership on this issue it might have been more effective to show up at some point before the vote, not afterwards.
     
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    "Brexit" would be a good name for a tabby cat.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    None of whom can vote for or against him.

    The EU is a failed nanny state quasi-government, I'll bet anyone that history will show it to be a monumental failure.
     
  9. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    When you have Scottish people protesting him with Mexican flags, then you know something is wrong. As usual, Trump opened his mouth without doing any research.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Right, because if any respected American statesman will persuade the Scottish people to change their mind on such an existential issue, it's Donald J. Tru... ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Man, and I almost made it to the end....
     
  11. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator Staff Member

    ...or a British Shorthair or Scottish Fold.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Oh, they didn't like him anyway. He's battled locals over his money-losing (according to his tax filings in the UK; his election declarations claim it's making money) golf course. He didn't deliver the 5-6,000 jobs, the housing development, or just about anything else. (Except a fight over the wind farm already planned.)

    Tone-deaf comments about Brexit are just a bonus.
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Note that both Northern Ireland and Scotland had majorities favoring staying in the EU. The talk in Northern Ireland is reunion with Ireland. The talk in Scotland is independence. In the UK, younger voters wanted to stay. The over-65 crowd got swayed by talk of immigration and sovereignty, drawing back on older days. Well, those days aren't coming back, and that bunch did an awful lot to hurt the UK...and the EU as well. Nice work.
     
  14. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I don't really care what the British people prefer unless it affects the U.S. Right now, the stock market is tumbling, but it could stabilize after the initial shock. What I find ironic is that England has not had a history of caring about anyone else's sovereignty or moving in droves to other peoples' lands.
     
  15. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    Then why did you bring it up? Trump had no business meddling in the affairs of the British before their vote (well, sort of, but it would have been silly and senseless). Now that he is a major party candidate for US President, and the British people have spoken, his views on Brexit are warranted and relevant. With the changes to come for Great Britain knowing that the potential leader of the US agrees with their sovereign position is incredibly important.
     
  16. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    I actually do "get it" but that isn't the point. We will only be able to see this clearly with the benefit of hindsight...part of me still hopes a viable third candidate comes along and wins this election, I'm not really a Trump supporter. The guy is however the de facto candidate of the Republican party...what he says matters, like it or not.
     
  17. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Because it makes him look like an idiot. Which he is. So I enjoy highlighting that fact.
     
  18. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    He's not the brightest bulb, I'll grant you that.
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Interesting. There are a lot of people in the U.S. who urge it to take unilateral actions that cause harm to other societies, economically and in other ways, and who suggest that the U.S. should not be concerned about those other countries.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Going to Scotland and then speaking out about a measure they're against is like being a guest in someone's home and then being rude to them. He's visiting a golf course; it isn't a state visit.
     

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