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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You might get a similar deal from McKinley College or U.S. Career Institute. Both are owned by Weston Learning and both offer career-oriented Associate degrees, DETC accredited. Come to think of it. the price might be a bit higher - maybe $100 a credit hour. There is an RA source of courses at $80-odd a credit hour. LSU. Great school, but not enough distance courses available to complete any degree. The ones they do have are an outstanding value.

    Johann
     
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  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Whoops - big increase Oct 9 at LSU

    Hi again -

    Wouldn't ya know it? Just after I mention LSU - a thread opens up elsewhere in the forum, "Big increase at LSU." Between extra add-on fees and a 10% increase, these three-credit courses will go to - I think - $364 as of Oct. 9. This info from poster xaperx, today elsewhere on DI.

    Still great courses, but the price has gone pretty rapidly from $80 a credit to $121. Another poster remarked that now U. of Wyoming Independent Studies courses will be cheaper.

    Johann
     
  3. muaranah

    muaranah New Member

    LSU is probably still less expensive because U Wyoming has a $40 per credit hour surcharge for online courses.
     
  4. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    I don't think this is correct. Much of America have yet to hear about UNISA (so much more "worldwide"), and the word "Africa" is often associated with malnourished black children with swollen bellies and crap and flies everywhere. It would be tedious to always be explaining that South Africa is actually replete with Europeans and is quite urbanized. So, by name association, which is what you have suggested in 1, I don't see UNISA's at all. Some may even view it odd that you, being in the US, opted to obtain your degree from a university in Africa. And especially so if they learned that you never lived there. You will be looked upon as the guy who received a correspondence degree from some African school.

    If it is really a name game then it would be best to choose legitimate schools whose names include the name of big cities like Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Houston, and so on. If one is living abroad, say for example somewhere in Asia, then having the name of big states (California, New York, etc.) attached to the name of their school (e.g. California Coast University) would be enough and will help in the name game, regardless of whether they are NA or RA, as long as the school is legitimate.

    It is also wrong that only a few countries will accept American NA degrees compared to UNISA degrees. Many countries are dazzled by American credentials as the US is looked upon as a leader nation, and if they have any doubt, they can always correspond with the US Department of Education, who will do nothing but assure them that the NA college is perfectly legit. Now, I cannot say that many countries are dazzled by African credentials. So, if you are talking about international, then US academic credentials take the lead, not the other way around.

    Lastly, the number of program offerings should not matter. Because if a person is already in the stage of choosing between a DETC accredited college and UNISA, for example, then it means that he has already spotted a program of interest in that DETC school.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    (1) You have only look here (Britain) for a start, if you want to know about the potential troubles an NA grad can have getting his/her degree recognized outside of the US. There are plenty of counries where they "work" (e.g. France) and plenty where they don't work well..and a number where they don't work at all. This is only one such thread at DI:

    http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/33007-usa-na-degrees-not-evaluated-naric-uk.html

    (2) Lots of Americans have heard about UNISA. Ask the people ON THIS FORUM who have earned, or are working on UNISA Doctorates at around $2,000 a year! If Americans haven't heard of the school, why do they form the second-largest contingent of DL students at UNISA. (Largest group= other Africans.)

    (3) Yes, it IS wrong to say only a few countries will accept American NA degrees. That's why I never said it. I said "quite a few countries that will accept UNISA degrees won't accept NA degrees." And that's true, starting with UK situations. Here at home, UNISA degrees are evaluated RA - so they can be used in US situations where NA degrees are not acceptable. I'm NOT saying it's necessarily right, or opening up another RA vs. NA debate. I'm just saying such situations exist - because they do.

    (4) The number of programs offered only matters this much: it helps determine that we should not be comparing these two schools, as they are so different. One is a full-fledged (and I still say MAJOR) University. The other is a school that concentrates largely on career-oriented Associate degrees. It is fortunate that the same field is available at both. UNISA makes more sense, money-wise. No other real reason here.

    (5) As I see it, both Ashworth and NA degrees in general are perfectly good. (I live in Canada and some University officials here may disagree with me -- others will not.) However, the two schools are not (and should not be) compared on academic grounds. It happens, though, that UNISA charges less, and to someone in Somaliland, that matters a great deal.

    (6) I agree, people in many countries are indeed "dazzled" as you put it, by American (or American-sounding) credentials. Unfortunately, it is too often poor individuals, preyed upon by fraudulent or semi-worthless "schools" who are dazzled - not the Higher Ed. authorities, who declare the degrees of these bogus schools invalid. E.G. "Florida Green University" Karachi, Pakistan. And no - I'm not saying Ashworth is such a school. It is not.

    I won't comment on the "flies..swollen bellies..crap" remarks.

    Thank you.

    Johann
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I should clarify:

    Largest group of NON-SOUTH-AFRICAN DL students at UNISA - other Africans
    Second-largest NON-SOUTH-AFRICAN group: Americans.


    Johann
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    One more thing:

    I suggested in good faith to Fahad that he check with his local authorities re: the acceptance of NA degrees in Somaliland. I have no idea how acceptable they are there. I just suggested it to save him potential money and disappointment down the line if an NA degree proved unacceptable --as it DOES in quite a few locales - for good reason or bad, whether WE like it or not.

    As to OpalMoon's suggestion that "all they have to do is check with the USDoE and find they're legit"...well, in practice they very likely won't.

    I don't believe most of the countries that don't like NA degrees for whatever reason bother. They may know the degrees are legit in America but their minds seem to be made up about local use.

    Johann
     
  8. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    You did not go through the entire thread. It turned out that the original poster only knew 2 persons who have had problems. Everyone else he knew did not have any. Here I will quote that part of his last post on that thread and provide the link: "All other people whom I know with DETC or other NA accredited degree had no problems with their degree. One has Aspen degree and the other has Cal National University for Advanced Study Degree, both had no problem to get in to a grad school in UK." (Source: http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/33007-usa-na-degrees-not-evaluated-naric-uk.html#post322926)

    You are also over assuming, you believed our fellow anonymous poster hook, line, and sinker without even asking for any proof regarding the truthfulness of, or the circumstances around those, two isolated cases. Nevertheless, it is clear from the above quote that what happened to those two, provided that the story is true, was more of an exception rather than the rule.

    Of course, those who are studying there have heard about it. How would they have come about enrolling there in the first place without even knowing that such a school exists? But the rest of the people, especially the more important ones (like a prospective employer if ever) most probably don't know. C'mon, accept that. You know it's true. Now, when UNISA said Americans make-up the largest group other than Africans, do you know the figures? The DETC institution being mentioned here is Ashworth College. Why don't you compare the demographics of both schools? How many Americans are enrolled at Ashworth and how many are enrolled at UNISA online? Then decide which one is better known if that is the gauge that you want to use.

    You said, "Quite a few countries which accept UNISA degrees won't accept American NA degrees." This implies that more countries will accept UNISA degrees than NA degrees. So, I said "It is also wrong that only a few countries will accept American NA degrees compared to UNISA degrees." You cut 1/4 of my sentence to create a strawman. Situations for and against NA exists, in the same way that situations for and against RA exists. It just depends on where you want to focus. Since you are already enrolled in UNISA, which is a school in Africa—a place that is unfortunately viewed by the ignorant majority (ignorant about the circumstances in Africa only) as synonymous with malnutrition, AIDS, and tribesmen holding spears and wearing grass skirts—you have opted to focus on the few isolated problems with NA schools to vindicate your choice. Psychologically, that is not difficult to understand. But what you should realize is that it does not matter if it is RA or NA, both are perfectly legit. What matters is the reputation of the school. And if a prospective employer abroad doesn't know anything about the reputation of either the DETC school or UNISA, the DETC school has an advantage, as it is seen as an American school and not as a 3rd world school.

    Well, I don't know what you mean by "full-pledged." Do you believe that DETC schools are not full-pledged? But I won't call it a MAJOR university. In that part of the jungle probably, but in other jungles it is just another school in Africa. The DETC school in question does not "concentrate" on career-oriented associates degrees. They just happen to offer those programs, and they do have an RA high school, bachelors and masters programs as well. Perhaps 90% of UNISA degrees have no utility, they are basically useless majors. But even Ashworth's non-degree programs have immediate utility. Those are fully-accredited credentials that can be used straightaway if their is a vacancy. Ashworth also have programs that UNISA don't offer. I'm sure you know this.

    You cannot say that. Why would you automatically assume that a person from Somaliland does not have enough money to enroll in an American college that is just $80.00 per credit unit? Ashworth is the cheapest DETC college that I know of.

    Such schools are out of the question. I explicitly said, "If one is living abroad, say for example somewhere in Asia, then having the name of big states (California, New York, etc.) attached to the name of their school (e.g. California Coast University ) would be enough and will help in the name game, regardless of whether they are NA or RA, as long as the school is legitimate." Why would you even mention bogus schools? We are only talking about DETC schools and UNISA. Is UNISA a bogus school? The Higher Ed. Authorities have a way of finding out the legitimacy of the school and that of its corresponding accreditation. So, no problem with them. But it is not those Higher Ed. authorities who is going to look at someone's resume when he applies for a job, it is most probably someone who have not even heard of NA and RA, especially those in remote 3rd world countries. Even credentials from diploma mills occasionally go through, and this happens in the US too, so much more in those countries. The only advantage of legitimate degrees is if ever the company or institution checks, there would be no problem.

    What do you know about their practice? That is what you believe, but you do not really know anything about anybody's practice. "They very likely won't" is based on what? Nothing! You see, it is just commonsense. If a company does not want you, they will not bother checking. If they want you and they are not suspicious, they will also not check. (Why would they?) Checking only happens if the company wants you but they are suspicious about your credentials, then they will check. Nowadays, everything can be done online. Just a few emails here and there will confirm that the DETC school is perfectly legit. Let's say we are both in Malaysia, we have the same bachelor's degree, we are both honor grads, we have more or less the same experience, I'm a little bit more good looking than you, but your degree is from Africa and mine is from the USA. Who has the advantage looks aside? Of course I do.
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You win

    Hi OpalMoon

    I will go away now and concede most of the argument. You can win whatever you want the prize to be. But first:

    (1) Kizmet (moderator) brought up the subject of UNISA in the first place. Her reasoning was that a "higher" degree (Bachelor's) could be earned for less money than an Associate's at Ashworth. I think it's fair to say that both Kizmet and I think UNISA has a good rep. (She posted that she recommends it frequently.)

    You say UNISA is "just another school in the jungle." Your words, not mine. They don't affect me, but I think there might be some head-shaking in South Africa over them!

    I read your opinion as: ANY American school is superior to ANY school in Africa, including UNISA. I do not share that opinion.

    (2) Kizmet was right. Although the Ashworth 2-year degree has very reasonable tuition, the UNISA Bachelor's would cost a fraction of the price. I then agreed with Kizmet's suggestion, as the original poster had said that his funds were limited. Yes, he said he could afford Ashworth - but here was a good (I still think) alternative.

    (3) Naturally more Americans are enrolled at Ashworth than UNISA. It's a school in their homeland, after all! I'll bet Ashworth doesn't have many Africans, either. This is a specious argument at best!

    (4) When I said UNISA was a "full-fledged" University (PLEASE note the spelling!) and Ashworth was a different kind of school, I meant this: They do not compete in the same league. Asworth is a (GOOD) distance-only school which teaches a limited number of (mostly) career-oriented degrees. UNISA has distance courses right up to Doctorates and has a B and M presence, many more professors and teaches a FAR wider selection of disciplines. You can study languages, history, philosophy, physics, literature, etc. etc. etc. They are TOTALLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCHOOL - BOTH VERY GOOD FOR THEIR TYPES.

    Yes - I still say UNISA is a very GOOD school, but I'm becoming tired of defending a suggestion I didn't originate ... Ashworth is also very good. But that's where the comparison should end - it's a different type of school and should NOT BE COMPARED with UNISA - Money issues aside, both could be good choices (for different reasons) for Fahad. It is grossly inaccurate to infer that Ashworth is good because it's American and UNISA is bad because it's in Africa. You've leaned on that distinction pretty hard, as I've noted.

    (5) I'm not going into the RA-NA fray any further except to say - Ashworth degrees are perfectly good as I see it, but when RA is required a UNISA degree will trump Ashworth, because that's the way the UNISA degree usually evaluates. Funny thing - UNISA was formerly a DETC accredited school - in addition to its own South African standards. It voluntarily gave up its DETC standing a couple of years back - no longer a real issue, as Americans couldcount on RA equivalency.

    (6) Lastly - yes, you are undoubtedly better-looking. You have no idea! I'm 68 and have led a hard life - I look at least 30 years older! And your (forum) name is really beautiful.

    BUT - if we were faced with a competition in Malaysia - a place with very high education standards and several Universities offering distance programs - we would both lose out. Your American DETC degree and my African degree (if I had one) would lose out to someone local from LimKokWing or Universiti Sains Malaysia! :knockedout:

    ...uh, I guess you win, anyway. Cheers. Enjoy your victory!

    Johann
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    By the way -- Ashworth is not "Cheapest DETC College"

    Couldn't resist this...

    Andrew Jackson U is cheaper, tuition-wise. I was surprised. We were discussing low-tuition DETC schools in another thread and a poster who is smarter and of better repute than I (Steve Foerster) mentioned AJU.

    Their tuition is $45 a unit plus a $395 semester fee (12 credits). That works out to around $74.17 a credit.

    Darn good school, too. I think I'd pick it over Ashworth, but that's just silly me talking! What the heck do I know? :silly:

    Johann
     
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  11. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    I wasn't slagging UNISA, I was against your double talk, praising Ashworth while putting it down (simultaneously), then promoting the African online school. You cited http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/33007-usa-na-degrees-not-evaluated-naric-uk.html#post322926 to prove that DETC degrees are problematic. But you did not read the entire thread where the original poster admitted that the two incidents he knew were isolated and that "All other people whom I know with DETC or other NA accredited degree had no problems with their degree. One has Aspen degree and the other has Cal National University for Advanced Study Degree, both had no problem to get in to a grad school in UK." The question of who brought UNISA up, doesn't even come in. Its immaterial and irrelevant to the discussion. Your attempt to "run to mommy" has been noted.

    No. In fact, they are your words and not mine. What I said was "In that part of the jungle probably, but in other jungles it is just another school in Africa." When you quote, do not paraphrase. Because you screw up the context doing that. Jungle here simply means place. Is it your age or your real impression of UNISA or both that distorted the way you read what I truly wrote?

    You have a serious comprehension problem. It was actually you who said that "Quite a few countries which accept UNISA degrees won't accept American NA degrees." Which implied that more countries will accept UNISA degrees than NA degrees. It was you who has been comparing the two from the very beginning. My stand was that both have legitimate accreditation but, if I were to follow your argument, a US education is generally more respected than one from a place that is usually associated with tribesmen in grass skirts, children dying of malnutrition, and swarms of flies. I never said that such associations are correct. In fact, I said that they are due to ignorance. But you cannot deny that a good number of people think of Africa that way, while those from other countries, especially in the third-world, view the US as an ideal place to obtain an education. Yet I only mentioned that to challenge your stand that a degree from UNISA is somehow better than a DETC degree. The thread that you used to support that assumption has already been used against you.

    I don't care about your response to Kizmet. Stop dragging other posters in. You can cry to mommy all you want after this:) I replied to your post because I disagree with your stance that DETC degrees are inherently problematic while UNISA degrees are flawless.

    No, no, no. You said that if most Americans don't even know that such a school as UNISA existed, then why is it that Americans make up the most of UNISA's non-African students? My response to you was that, of course, Americans who are enrolled at UNISA know that the school exists. This means that you should not be using UNISA's American students, whose actual figure you don't even know, to prove that UNISA is well-known by Americans. Because if we use this to judge which school has more utility to Americans, then there could be more Americans enrolled at Ashworth. The number of African students at Ashworth does not figure anywhere in this particular argument, which you started yourself. In this part of the argument you were attempting to convince me that UNISA is well known to Americans, not that Ashworth is well-known to Africans.

    They do compete in the same league. They both offer accredited online degrees. The difference in "league" only exists in your imagination.

    Again, you have noted something that is not even there. Are you high? The only thing that is "grossly inaccurate" here is your comprehension. I never said that Ashworth is good because it is American. My arguments have nothing to do with the quality of education or with "good" and "bad." It was all about other people's impression, how they are likely to view UNISA and a DETC college. A point which you yourself started. Here is what I said as a response to you, "It is also wrong that only a few countries will accept American NA degrees compared to UNISA degrees. Many countries are dazzled by American credentials as the US is looked upon as a leader nation, and if they have any doubt, they can always correspond with the US Department of Education, who will do nothing but assure them that the NA college is perfectly legit. Now, I cannot say that many countries are dazzled by African credentials. So, if you are talking about international, then US academic credentials take the lead, not the other way around." Do you get it now?

    RA equivalency is not RA. Many international degrees are equivalent to RA, but they are still not RA. If I ask you for an RA degree and you give me a UNISA degree, which according to you is equivalent to RA, then I will tell you that though it could be an equivalent still you are presenting me something other than what I ask for. Do you understand? If I ask you for a Coca Cola, and you give me a Pepsi, which is pretty much the same, you still haven't given me the Coca Cola I asked for. Nevertheless, Carol Griffiths, Accreditation and State Liaison of the US Department of Education already published a document stating that RA and NA are identical. Here it is http://www.detc.org/downloads/publications/GriffithsLetter.pdf

    Johann, I don't have a DETC degree. I only have an RA degree, and another one coming up hopefully. Now, if we are both in Malaysia, where my brother-in-law is from, your African degree will be very useful as a toilet paper and my American degree could take me anywhere I want in my particular profession. American degrees, provided that they can be verified as legitimate, are viewed like huge sparkling diamonds in Malaysia. Actually, both of Prime Minister Najib Razak's children have an American education.

    You should have resisted really, because you are wrong again. A bachelors degree in Ashworth is only $83.00 per credit INCLUDING ALL THE REQUIRED TEXTBOOKS. NO $395.00 SEMESTER FEE. This makes Ashworth College the cheapest DETC school still. You even get a free college ring when you graduate:) Bachelor Degree in Criminal Justice Online - Ashworth College Sorry, Johann.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You won already.

    "Many international degrees are equivalent to RA, but they are still not RA. If I ask you for an RA degree and you give me a UNISA degree, which according to you is equivalent to RA, then I will tell you that though it could be an equivalent still you are presenting me something other than what I ask for."

    Of course foreign degrees are not RA (with certain exceptions, like Canada's Athabasca U. which is accredited by MSCHE.)

    If an RA degree is required - and someone presents a foreign degree - it must be evaluated by a NACES-member evaluator, e.g. WES. If it is evaluated as RA-equivalent, then the degree should be acceptable in that context.

    I already told you you won. OK? Now please stop belabouring my age, asking if I'm "high" (not since the 1960s and yes - I did inhale) or mulling over other possible causes of my vast general ignorance, as you see it.

    You told me not to, but I'm going home to Mommy anyway, right now! :knockedout:

    Johann
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    OpalMoon - It's possible for you to make all of your good points without adding the venom. We don't need to be insulting, do we?
     
  14. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    That is wrong. I do not "see" any "vast general ignorance" in you. You probably do, because you know yourself better, and I will not challenge your judgment on that. But to me, you are simply an old man who is unable to genuinely admit his ignorance, and also unable to admit that he is the first to compare UNISA with DETC and implied that UNISA is more acceptable and has more utility. Just to remind you, because you are very forgetful, your reason for claiming that UNISA has more utility is because, according to you, it is "RA equivalent." You also said that if a certain position requires an RA degree, then UNISA beats the DETC school because it is "RA equivalent." But what I have explained in the message you just responded to is that "RA equivalent" and RA are two different things. So, if a certain position truly and strictly demands an RA degree, then your "RA equivalent" degree from Africa won't do, because it's still not RA! If I ask you for a Coca Cola, and you give me Pepsi Cola, which is pretty much an equivalent, you still haven't given me the Coca Cola I asked for. This means that the utility which you claim as the major advantage of a UNISA degree to a DETC one does not really exist.

    With that in mind, I have already shown you from a letter issued by Carol Griffiths, Accreditation and State Liaison of the US Department of Education that RA and NA (like DETC) are IDENTICAL. Now, going by your belief that UNISA has more utility than DETC because it is "RA equivalent," I ask you, what has more utility, an accreditation that is "equivalent" to RA or one that is "identical" to RA? You can view the letter here http://www.detc.org/downloads/publications/GriffithsLetter.pdf Tell me, what did this make you and your argument against Ashworth College?

    See? You are saying that I already won and you still keep on fighting. Why can't you be true to yourself? You are saying one thing and you're doing the opposite. It's just like when you ever so subtly put the DETC degree down, even citing a thread (that has since then backfired) to illustrate that they are indeed problematic, while claiming that the African degree is tops, then insisting thereafter that you were not comparing them and that they are both very good. It's like saying, "Those two girls are both very good. It's just that the other one is gorgeous while the other looks like a goat. But they are both very good. How dare you say I am comparing them!" Too much double-talk. You need to tighten your screws a little bit and know where you truly stand.
     
  15. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    We don't need to be overly-politically-correct here. The guy is anonymous anyway. He must have some major self-esteem issues to still be affected even though he is completely cloaked. Anyway, I will comply, not because I agree with you or because I respect you, but only because as a moderator you can throw me out, and I want to post more.

    Just one question. Why wasn't Johann reprimanded when he harassed this poster?
     
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  16. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I'm aware that there are people in the world who only behave nicely because of their fear of punishment. It's too bad that you can't act in a civil manner simply because it's the right thing to do. As for Johann's post that you linked, I can't read every post in every thread. If you feel that someone has crossed the line then you should report it to a Moderator. There are functions on the site specifically for that purpose. Thank you for your continuing willingness to follow the Terms of Service.
     
  17. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    Oh no, I am not afraid of the punishment. I am not afraid of anything. As for Johann's post that I linked, that is just one post in one thread. You do not have to read every post in every thread to get to that. That is ridiculous. And now that you have already learned about it, you should have actioned it instead of suggesting that I report it to a moderator. Also, who do you think you are to decide what is "civil" and what is "right"? How do you know that "civil" is "right"? Your moderator role got in your head. Don't take it too seriously. This is just an anonymous board. Don't you have a life in the real world?
     
  18. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Unless you are the one establishing the posting policies at DegreeInfo (which you are not), please don't speak as to what is or is not appropriate. We do not allow flaming or attacking of other posters, and having read the entire thread, some of your comments do descend to that level.

    Secondly, one of the things that is pretty important to people at degreeinfo is accuracy and credibility of what's stated. You've made unsupported statements that you don't believe UNISA is a widely recognized or respected school. Others would disagree with you. In fact, this school is very widely recognized and known, has been providing distance learning opportunities worldwide for decades, and, quite honestly, runs circles around Ashworth, Cal Coast, or pretty much any DETC school in terms of the recognition, quality of programs, acceptability of the degree, and other factors.

    Like it or not, DETC-accredited degrees are simply not as widely recognized as degrees from RA schools. While ignorance in some countries may lead some people to believe that, by the sound of it, "national" accreditation (DETC) is better than "regional", among those who are informed, the limitations (and frankly, the prejudice) surrounding DETC degrees has cause quite a lot of people problems. So, all things being equal, an RA degree, or a degree from a school such as UNISA that is recognized as equivalent to RA, will in nearly all cases be a "safer" choice in that it is less likely to cause the degree holder any problems. That information is reliable for people in the US, and to the limited extent that the issue has been explored in other countries, it does generalize to many countries.

    Now, as other posters have already stated, for the OP in this thread, a DETC degree may be sensible because DETC degrees can be a better value than most RA or equivalent degrees. If the poster simply doesn't have the resources to pursue an RA degree, then a DETC degree may be an acceptable alternative, but most of the regulars here believe that it's important to disclose the differences so the person pursuing the degree can make the choice for him or herself.

    If you ever find a post that you believe violates our posting guidelines, please report it and our moderation team will address the issue as appropriate. We generally do not publicly discuss what actions are taken against posters who violate the policies.


    I will thank you to be more courteous to your fellow posters in future responses. While you may feel that because someone posts anonymously, they don't deserve any respect, DegreeInfo policy does not agree with you, and it is policy that governs the acceptable rules for posting here.

    Please PM me if you have any questions.
     
  19. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    You are treading dangerously close to the line of inappropriate behavior. The moderation team is charged with ensuring that DegreeInfo remains a courteous and pleasant place for people to interact and discuss topics related to distance learning. Kizmet is doing exactly what she is supposed to be doing. Also, DegreeInfo is a private forum, so the rules are those established by the forum owners; there are no "rights" per se to post here.

    If you do not like the way she is moderating, or the posting policies that degreeinfo maintains, intended to keep the community civil and communicating smoothly, you can feel free to go post somewhere else.
     
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    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

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