ashworth online college

Discussion in 'IT and Computer-Related Degrees' started by fahad, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. fahad

    fahad New Member

    I want to enroll the ashworth online college some one told me that they are scam to earn your money please is it true that they are scam al though that they are nationally accredited but i see more people studying this college and they are happy
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    They are a legitimate DETC accredited school. They are neither a mill nor a scam.
     
  3. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Yes they are a real college. They are DETC accredited which is not RA, but not bad. I think you would be better off going with a school like Andrew Jackson University it only goes to $68 an hour. That's cheaper than Ashworth.

    What degree are looking for?
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    All schools have happy / unhappy students

    Hi Fahad

    Ashworth is indeed Nationally Accredited (DETC). By the way, if you are overseas, make sure a Nationally Accredited degree is acceptable in your country. Some countries insist on U.S. degrees being Regionally Accredited to be acceptable - others do not.

    I've read (in the past) of quite a few customer-service type complaints about Ashworth - slow or missing shipments, accounting errors etc. I think we can put some of that down to "growing pains." The school was undergoing rapid growth. (Low prices + NA = large number of applicants.) I'm guessing that customer service capacity lagged behind enrolment.

    I've heard less of these problems lately. Any school is going to have some unhappy customers and you sort of have to read between the lines, to understand what's really behind the complaint. It's not always the direct fault of the school. Whether it is or not, sometimes one twit in customer service or marketing can destroy all the goodwill the school has tried to build up over years!

    As far as what you get academically -- it's a real degree (NA) but at that price, what every student gets has to be very uniform. Tread the well-worn path - read the questions, do the assignments, learn the work and sit the exams and you'll do fine.. You're going to learn from a book - not at the feet of a brilliant professor. That's because you're not paying for the professor - or the classroom/building he teaches in.

    They're not a scam. They offer "real" degrees (NA) at a low price. They're not alone - If a distance NA degree is acceptable where you reside, check out the competition while you're at it: e.g. Penn Foster,
    Penn Foster Career School | Self-Paced, Distance Education Programs . And no - I don't work for these schools (or anybody else. :) )

    I just noticed b4cz28's reply. AJU is indeed a fine school. It's also DETC, but I really think of it as being in a higher category than those I discussed. If you can go here for $68 a credit hour - I'd suggest you do so. Didn't know tuition was so low there!

    Johann
     
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  5. fahad

    fahad New Member

    I am interesting Computer information management AS degree
     
  6. fahad

    fahad New Member

    The reason that I prefer this college is I am in somaliland my annual budget is low only I can afford the tuition of this college
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I understand.

    Hi Fahad -

    I understand completely. For a limited budget, Ashworth is a very good choice.

    Good luck to you in your studies - and good luck to your country, Somaliland. I understand it is making a great effort towards re-building its higher education facilities.

    Johann
     
  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Considering where you live and your budget I'd suggest that you think about a Bachelors degree program from UNISA. It's a higher degree and so will take you further than an AA/AS and will cost you a fraction of that Ashworth degree. Think about it.

    Unisa Online - School of Computing
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You sure?

    Hi Kizmet

    Yes indeed, the B.Sc. from Unisa is "a higher degree" etc. But I can't see how it will cost "a fraction" of the Ashworth degree. Can you show me how?

    My rough estimate:

    Ashworth 2-year degree, $5300 all-in, give or take...

    UNISA 3-year degree - $8,000 + books etc - give or take...

    Not much for us perhaps -- a lot more for Fahad. Another place he might take a look at is www.worldcollege.edu They have associates AND bachelor's degrees in IT at low tuition rates - and even a $35 down (or thereabouts) plan - last time I looked, anyway. Nationally accredited, well-regarded.

    Johann
     
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  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    If I'm wrong I'd like to know because I've recommended this school based on cost and I don't want to do this if I'm mistaken.
     
  12. muaranah

    muaranah New Member

    Obviously UNISA would have much greater name recognition in Somaliland, so surely there is value in that besides the clear qualitative difference between the two schools, and comparing an associates degree with a bachelor degree from UNISA is ludicrous. UNISA is clearly the better value.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    That $100+ a course is for South African students. Scroll down in the PDF document on the page you referenced and you will find that there is in addition a surcharge of RSA 770 ($109.70 US) per course, for the rest of Africa. The surcharge is nearly double that (RSA 1440 - $210 or so US) outside Africa.

    So - the $100 course appears to be $210 for Africa or around $310 for others.

    On the same page, UNISA tells us the fees are for 2010 only. Foreigners should get ready for a major hit, as the subsidy that applies to distance students is under review and may not be extended to foreigners any more. (I've read elsewhere that this subsidy is 50%. I would then expect that if it is taken away, the cost per course should double accordingly.)

    I've read (in the past) that the greatest bargains at UNISA have been graduate programs - Masters and Doctoral studies at less than $3,000 a year.
    Undergrad studies have also been a bargain, but not by nearly the same margin. (South African residents have told me the same thing.)

    ...And yes, I agree that UNISA is obviously in a better class than Ashworth. If it's possible money-wise for our friend in Somaliland to study at UNISA, it's a clear winner. If not, as I suggested before, Fahad might want to look at CIE-World College before signing up with Ashworth. The school is focused on IT and electronic engineering, is reasonable in cost and well-regarded.

    Johann
     
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  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Despite appearances, I am not stupid enough to compare apples with oranges, Muaranah! And neither is anyone else here, so far. Fahad mentioned Ashworth because that associate degree fit his budget. We KNOW Unisa is a better school, but perhaps its fee structure does not fit the budget.

    If you like apple-and-orange comparisons (and it seems you do) -- I think a Mercedes is a far better car than a Hyundai, but it costs three or four times as much. So... I can't afford a Mercedes. Accordingly, there's not much use in my thinking about one, now is there?

    Johann
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Whoops - Johann wrong again (getting to be a habit.)

    Hi Kizmet -

    I went over the fees again and it looks like you were WAY closer than I was even with the surcharges! My apologies.

    Nomenclature: Undergrad students usually take four 30-credit modules a year for 120 credits. After 3 years and 360 credits - a degree.

    Four modules at RSA 942 each = 3768
    Four surcharges at RSA 360 = 1440

    Total cost per year RSA 5,208 = $741 US

    Total cost for degree - $2,223 US plus books and incidentals

    Even if it doubles, it's less than Ashworth and a far better degree. Fahad, check out UNISA!

    Johann
     
  16. Does UNISA have a better reputation than Ashworth in Africa? What are you guys basing that on?
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Which is better.

    Well, here are a few things we can base it on.

    (1) Unisa is a major school. Its reputation is world-wide. Don't think you can say that about Ashworth (for a while yet, anyway! :) ). Quite a few countries which accept UNISA degrees won't accept American NA degrees - - including those from Ashworth. Just a fact - no RA/NA debate here, please!

    (2) Unisa has a wide range of programs. Ashworth has limited offerings and a thin crop indeed beyond Associates. Couple of bachelor's, a few Master's degrees and ZERO doctorates. Unisa - full range at all levels.

    (3) DL Enrolment: Second largest group of non-South African students - Americans. Biggest group - other Africans.

    Johann
     
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Afterthought...

    Hi again -

    We shouldn't really be comparing, on any basis. They're both good schools, but of entirely different kinds - as intended. One is a full-fledged major University, the other offers a relatively small selection of career-oriented degrees. Apples and oranges....

    Johann
     
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  19. ShotoJuku

    ShotoJuku New Member

    It looks as though both Ashworth and Penn Foster are virtual twins offering similar programs at similar prices. Are there any other schools out there that use their same format at such an inexpensive price per credit hour ($80 bucks)?
     
  20. gandhini

    gandhini member

    can you please guide me for online education for the bioinformatics(protein).
     

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