APUS Announces 1st Doctoral Programs

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I suggest that you make a formal recommendation to both schools.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I know Fuerza means well, but in this scenario, AMU saves a little labor and ends up with just 5% of the revenue of what they're doing now. I find it difficult to believe that one could convince them that's in their interest.
     
  3. Fuerza

    Fuerza New Member

    I largely agree that it would be difficult to convince them, and this is mostly a wishful thinking scenario on my part, but there are additional benefits. The largest one being that AMU, or whatever American school, would be able to attract students who would not have otherwise applied to its master's programs to make them eligible for the partnership program later. A few thousand in tuition for a few years after is more icing on the cake, especially considering the relatively passive role they would need to play. UNISA would make out pretty well in gaining 3-6 years of tuition for a fraction of the work normally invested, though they would obviously relinquish a degree of control over the program. Both schools would further benefit from a larger public profile and an increased alumni network, and students would obviously make out quite well also.
     
  4. Gbssurvivor1

    Gbssurvivor1 Member

    Tireman,
    I am sending you a PM.
    Alex
     
  5. Gbssurvivor1

    Gbssurvivor1 Member

    Good point Tekman,
    Except the AMU Doctorates are $50K and $60K... I really like the school but that is too rich for my blood...
    Alex
     
  6. Gbssurvivor1

    Gbssurvivor1 Member

    Rebel,
    They are starting at $50K and $60K....
    a.
     
  7. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Alex,

    I did not get your PM, but I am assuming you are asking about UNISA.

    1. I used Dr. Esselen and his group at IACI to get into UNISA. They are very picky as to whom they let in, so it took awhile to get in ( I applied in 2007, got in in July 2009)
    2. You have 7 years to finish, but I was given yet another extension by my co-chair at UNISA to finish. July 2009 makes year 8. I am hoping for December 2017 to defend, but I have until February 2018 to finish.
    3. IT IS HARD. If you need hand holding, UNISA is not your school. If you need constant supervision, UNISA is not your school.
    4. Yes, it is inexpensive. The most I have paid is $2200 dollars a year. This past March I paid $1800.00
    5. I can only speak for the history department. I have no idea about the other departments.

    This is the process:

    1. You have to get selected. Someone in the department ( history) has to have an interest in your research
    2. Then you are selected. That person who wanted to work with you ( and that is a very loose term, he has not ever) will ask you to pick a co-chair. That person has to be an expert in your field.
    3. Then you and the co-chair "do the dissertation" as it were. When it is up to his/her liking, the two pick a committee of three experts in your field
    4. That committee revises and works it over until they are satisfied
    5. You defend. No I do not have to go to Pretoria. Yes, I am doing by Google Hangouts
    6. Corrections are to be made afterward ( if there are any)
    7. You cannot call yourself ( not that I want to ...ever..after all this) doctor until you get your degree
    8. No, I am not going to Pretoria to walk. 2K a ticket is too rich for my blood


    Lastly, invest in a dissertation coach. She has helped a ton with scheduling ( although I do most of it)
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Steve Foerster: Okay, but where's the PhD in History we've all been grumbling about for the last ten years?

    Ted Heiks: And I third this.
     
  9. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

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  10. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    I realize I'm super late to this party, but I'm in a Facebook group with a bunch of folks from APU's History programs. It's their understanding that APU will NOT be getting a PhD in History because the American Historical Association will not recognize an online PhD. They've also tried getting a chapter of Phi Alpha Theta, but that organization also refuses to recognize an online school.

    -Matt
     
  11. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Although my future PhD in History is not online, but correspondence, that seems ridiculous of the AHA. Also indicative of the old way of thinking.
     
  12. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    What are the eweifications of not receiving AHA recognition?
     
  13. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    It sounds like the American Historical Association is....... living in the past.
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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  15. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Can you please post a link to the program that you're referring to?
     
  16. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I think that if you look at his sig line you'll see he's referring to UNISA.
     
  17. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    UNISA is correspondence and not online? In actually, the difference between correspondence and online is minimal, although the online route allows for instantaneous submissions and quicker feedback.
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Indeed, I gather that in many cases that the lines between the two have become awfully blurred.
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I view of the fact that there are no actual classes, progress on research, criticism of research, etc. is typically done via email. Now I suppose that you could say that email is "online" but because UNISA has been conducting it's business well before email was invented I tend to think of it as correspondence.
     
  20. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    True. What Kizmet stated. It is truly correspondence. Other items have been added in, but the essence is still. correspondence. Telephone and mail originally, email and Google Hangouts later.
     

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