Schumer's speech

I will try harder to do what is best.

 

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Tuesday said there was no evidence that Israeli forces were committing "genocide" in the Gaza Strip.
Austin was asked about Israel's military operations in Gaza by Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., during a hearing on the Pentagon's 2025 budget request.
"Is Israel committing genocide in Gaza?" Cotton asked, referring to protesters' claims that Israel is indiscriminately targeting civilians.
"We don't have any evidence of genocide being created. We don't have any evidence of that to my knowledge," Austin replied.

 

Israel's "original sin" (to mix a metaphor) was to have been birthed by the British over the loud and repeated objections of the Arab populace and politicians.

Britain did not create the State of Israel. The World Zionist Movement did that. But the British made clear to the rest of the world that there would be a Jewish Homeland in territory that the British controlled but did not own. This was the final act of their betrayal toward their Arab allies, the final breaking of their most solemn promises.

I do not know whether the British could have managed the situation differently. They did what nations always do, whatever they must do to survive. I am even less sure that anything can ever be done to end Arab resentment and bring a lasting peace.

 

Well, what would you expect Secretary Austin to say?

 

My understanding is that the San Remo Conference, Treaty of Sèvres, Treaty of Lausanne and League of Nations granted no nation or people land in any part of Palestine other than the Jewish people. Moreover, Article 5 of the Mandate provided that “The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of the Government of any foreign Power.” The intent of keeping Palestine inviolate for the Jewish homeland is clear.
This shows that the Jews were given authority to return to their homeland and establish it within all of the borders of the British Mandate for Palestine. This included the land not only “from the River to the Sea,” but also the land of Jordan. But to-do that alongside Arabs and other minorities as it exists today in the state of Israel.

The initial peace Treaty of Versailles was followed by other treaties, which, among other work, partitioned the Ottoman Empire. To that end, the major powers met at San Remo and resolved to entrust

"the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on the 8th [2nd] November, 1917, by the British Government [the Balfour Declaration], and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people…."

The "devil" is so to say is in the interpretation. The British promises to local Arab tribes in Palestine were "verbal" less binding? I need to research this part. I'm aware of the promises and it played role in that some Palestinian Arabs joined the Brits in war against Turks Ottomans.

 

Truth and nothing but the truth.
Based on what I read and the efforts, Israel made to reduce civilian casualties, I agree with the Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin.
And blame Hamas and Islamic Jihad for suffering they brought to Gaza, for turning schools, hospitals , day care centers and residential areas in to Terror platform from where they shoot rockets at Israeli children, women, cities etc.

 

The administration may not have meant to play into Hamas’s hands when it shifted its harsh rhetoric toward Israel last week – but it did.
This represents a dramatic, harsh turn following on Israel that unwittingly emboldens and rewards Hamas.
The Biden administration once strongly insisted on Israel’s solemn right to do what it must to eradicate Hamas. Now, it appears to adopt the view that such a right has serious limits and might need to be abandoned well before Hamas military has been defeated.
This gives Hamas what it wants in an obvious sense: Hamas considers it a victory to survive when Israel has vowed to destroy it.


CNN Opinion
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-huge-mistake-biden-making-130855337.html

 

Um, Lerner? If Austin used the "g" word the consequences would not be trivial.

 

He didn't have to use it, because there is genocide in Gaza. There is great suffering that is caused by the war and Hams sacrificing Gaza civilians and using them to advance their terror against Israel.
Even if biased media propagates false narratives, he has his intelligence reports.

 

W oops I meant to say

He didn't have to use it, because there is NO genocide in Gaza.
There is great suffering that is caused by the war and Hams sacrificing Gaza civilians and using them to advance their terror against Israel.
Even if biased media propagates false narratives, he has his intelligence reports.

 

I can't say there is or there is not. It looks like genocide in furtherance of the announced intentions of members of the current Israeli government and since Netanyahu himself states that he will permit no two state solution, eliminating the Gaza population is to sole path forward.

 

From what I read and hear, watch on Israeli news media there is no plan to eliminate Gaza population. There is plan to eliminate militant and terror infrastructure and allow rebuilding of Gaza. But there are 3 more camps with terrorists that Israeli forces will handle in Central Gaza Strip, one they just started attack now Nycerate, Dir ElBalak, and Raffa is upcoming. The remaining Hamas battalions.
Israel is increasing significantly the flow of aid to civilians in Gaza.
Israeli promises to the US in regards to aid kept,

 

How does that claim fit with what the government says and what we see happening?

 

Whether or not genocide happened in the past is debatable. We will see if Biden has forced Netanyahu to drop his plan of mass famine in Gaza or not. This fact is not yet clear.

The Israeli government continues to take over Palestinian land. The Israeli right-wing continues to say that Palestinians will not be allowed self rule.

 

The Israeli right-wing say that Palestinians will not be allowed self rule because of the hostilities and terrorists acts, Intifada and continues plotting to kill Jews in Israel.

It wasn't like this, I remember visiting and being able to take a bass to Genin with a relative to by some building materials, the workers from Genin and other West bank areas built the residential buildings, in Israel, as workers employees. To a point that there is a joke in Israel, "Grandpa and his grandson walking the streets of the city and grandpa says you see this neighborhood, these buildings we built in 1977, and here those neighborhoods we build in 1972, the boy looks at the grandpa and asks, what are we Arabs?"
Most construction workers were Arabs and many from the territories. The rift and hostilities evolved with PLO and other Terror groups slowly spoiling the relations.
I know that generations of settlers got angry and not all see things same way.

It's like to say what if God forbid, Hispanics in TX, CA, AZ, NW areas rebel denounce their US citizenship, and claim US is taking Mexican land. (farfetched, I know)
Jordan lost that land, it wasn't a Palestinian state at the time, Israel took the land.
What if PLO didn't instigated resistance but like in US the residents would become part of Israel, like Nazareth etc?
Today the balance would have been an issue of Jewishness of Israel. But if there was no conflict, maybe it would be different?

 

There is an old saying that my Mother used to say, "Two wrongs don't make a right."

 

But three lefts do.

 

Typical Leftie comment.

 

Insufficient aid is getting into Gaza, especially north Gaza. Mass famine in Gaza appears to be on us. If this mass famine in Gaza does continue, that would be a war crime and genocide.

Here's a VERY HIGH reliability least biased source, CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies) https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center-for-strategic-and-international-studies/

quote:
Q1: Is Gaza in famine?
A1: Yes.

Q2: Why haven’t world leaders declared famine in Gaza?
A2: <long explanation not copied here>

Q4: What is exceptional about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza?
A4: ...
Finally, the crisis in Gaza is exceptional for its entirely man-made cause: conflict between Israel and Hamas, including Israel’s siege of Gaza, and restricted humanitarian access across the Gaza Strip. The causes of famine in Somalia and South Sudan included conflict as well as economic and environmental shocks. Today’s famine in Gaza represents the first instance of an entirely man-made famine this century.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/famine-gaza