Schumer's speech

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but how will all these evangelicals feel when Jews refuse to convert to Christianity? History suggests not too well.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Its all in the interpretation.
    I agree that as we know M Luther initially had a positive approach to the Jews, accepting and wrote, "Let the Jews see our Love and kindness etc., and they will convert etc." my paraphrasing, later after the Jews didn't convert he turn to more hateful approach and wrote accusations against the Jews.

    But Modern day Evangelicals, may have a different interpretation, they are more accepting and understanding that there is a House of Judah - The Jews and the House of Israel which are Christians and that both are comprising Israel spiritually and physically and that Christians are drafted in to the tree which is the nation of Israel.
    One day, as the Ezekiel prophecy of the two sticks states, the two Houses will unite.

    Christians in the NT have an account of Jesus telling that he came but to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (House of Judah not mentioned all do there were some lost sheep of the House of Israel among the Jews) the rest were scattered in the world since the Assyrian exile of the House of Israel some 150 years before House of Judah was exiled by Babylonians. The house of Judah returned and renewed the covenant of Moses in the days of Ezra. House of Israel remained in exile mostly and was without a covenant.
    Again, I'm just retelling what friends shared with me and don't have the expertise and know that there are many possible interpretations.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16135/jewish/Chapter-37.htm

    And even more interesting to me is when I read Quran, I was surprised and thought this is a book about the Children of Israel more than anybody else.
    Moses the prophet is mentioned the most in Quran in comparison to others. It resonated with some flavor of Kanaite and later Karate Judaism.
    But this is another discussion, and now the world of Academics comes with claim that original Quran was written in Aramaic.
    Luxenberg argues that the Quran was not originally written exclusively in Arabic but in a mixture with Syriac Aramaic, the dominant spoken and written language in the Arabian peninsula through the eighth century.
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Gaza stores full; markets overwhelmed with goods
    "There is no food shortage in Gaza, "The stores are full, the markets are bursting with goods, fruits, vegetables, shawarma, pitas – there is everything. Do you know why they no longer loot convoys? Because there is no shortage. The quantities entering are not normal."
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    Palestinians buy and sell at an open market in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip
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    Gazans swimming and trying to resume some normality.

     
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    uh huh.
     
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  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Anti-Israel protesters heard shouting ‘We are Hamas,’ ‘Long live Hamas’ amid Columbia U demonstrations

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-israel-protesters-heard-shouting-211732666.html

    "Anti-Israel protesters near Columbia University were heard shouting pro-Hamas slogans this week as demonstrations geared up at the private campus.

    "We are Hamas!" one aggressive protester was captured shouting on video. When a person asked her, "You’re Hamas, wow! You’re what? You’re Hamas?" she answered, "We are all Hamas, pig!"

    Another person could be heard calling, "Long live Hamas!"

    On Thursday, more than 100 anti-Israel protesters were arrested as they set up an encampment on campus that continued on Friday."
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Accreditation agencies should put on notice all those Universities that failed by producing terror supporting students. All the strict rules they created in drafting students fly to the window, based on the ugly results they are producing.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I notice that article used an unnamed source in the Israeli government that was in a position to know and reported that there is no famine in Gaza and never has been any famine in Gaza.

    I really wish it were true! I imagine that it could be somewhat comforting to go through life believing whatever makes one feel good. I really can't feel jealous of such people but I can feel some understanding sympathy.
     
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  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That won't happen unless ED/NACIQI leans on them.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I was watching an Israeli news channel, that included an interview with a correspondent who is an Arab in Gaza, with footage that included much more information about the markets and food.
    After that interview and footage, I did a search on the internet.
    Let me find more info, the Israeli TV channel 13 and 11 had similar footage.

    The article is taken from Israel Today

    https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/04/17/source-gaza-stores-full-markets-overwhelmed-with-goods/

    Israel Hayom has learned that every evening at 8 p.m., a quadrilateral forum takes place with representatives from Israel, the US, the UN, and Egypt, where a daily report on the humanitarian situation in Gaza is provided.


    On Israel's behalf, representatives from the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) participate. The Americans are represented by the Special Envoy for Middle East Humanitarian Issues David Satterfield. Together, they count how many trucks were inspected and entered the Strip, how many unloaded their contents inside, and how many did not, as well as the extent of hunger in Gaza.
     
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  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Israel Hayom Right Biased based on editorial positions that strongly favor the right. We also rate them as Mixed for factual reporting.
    Other new channels reported this as well, I think Times of Israel has an article.

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  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Israeli response,

    Despite these figures, Sutherfield told the "American Jewish Council" (AGC) last week that "there is an immediate risk of starvation, for most if not all of the 2.2 million people in Gaza." This is despite the fact that in the three days before, about 300 trucks per day entered the Strip. In Israel, it is believed that the way in which senior government officials are expressing themselves echoes the false claims of Hamas supporters in the US, as if genocide had been committed in Gaza. "The rhetoric is appalling, that they say must be political. Say whatever the voters like to hear. By the way, you can see that the actual policy does not change."

    I think it depends where in Gaza one is looking.
    South Gaza vs North Gaza.
    South Gaza has the aid, and this is why Gazans escape to the South, while North Gaza gets little aid coming in, so 300,000 in North Gaza are facing serious difficulties, and struggle for resources and food.

    South Gaza has organized, aid. Between two extremes: severe hunger in the north of the Gaza Strip, markets and aid in the south, Israel claims that there is no hunger in Gaza, but according to the UN, about a quarter of a million Gazans fight for every piece of food in the north of the Gaza Strip.

    Israel Channel 12 - A month old article
    https://www.mako.co.il/news-military/2024_q1/Article-ae9378cbfed4e81027.htm

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  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Antisemitic harassment, threats and intimidation hit a boiling point overnight at Columbia University, leading the White House on Sunday to condemn “physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community.” The White House statement came shortly after a prominent Jewish rabbi at the school declared the campus wasn’t safe for Jewish students, and urged them to leave until the school addresses “extreme” antisemitism.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    This is what happens when you submit to your most radicalized students and let them camp out in everyone's way and protest as long as they like, rather than, as soon as you see tents, announce that in one hour you will clear that space and arrest anyone trespassing there.
     
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  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    This is now happening all over US. They are chanting Our Missiles will destroy Israel etc. Directly supporting terrorists' regime.
    Threatening government officials on multiple levels. Hoping to achieve what they did in UK, were government officials are afraid.

    Here is UK Speaker of Parliament

     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What you say is true. But, from my point of view it is primarily Netanyahu's fault. October 7 galvanized the world behind Israel. Netanyahu destroyed that goodwill by allowing Hamas to advertise death and destruction day after day after day after day in Gaza going on for six months! They have managed to turn the tables of public opinion against Israel. It is Netanyahu's fault that Hamas was so brilliantly successful in their terrorist activities on October 7. It is Netanyahu's fault that the public opinion of Israel around the world has taken a huge slide down. It is Netanyahu's fault that even in the USA the public support for Israel has taken a big hit. Netanyahu is a horrible leader.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think the eruption is years in making, The catalyst was the 10/07 event just raptured it.
    Bibi wasn't PM for some time, yet the Jihadist forces and the Muslim brotherhood activities in the US and West in general only intensified.
    I think West have no idea who are they dealing with, and it's getting to late.
    Arafat when was asked by Arabs about agreements with Israel always replied "Hudaibiyah".
    Political and other forms of Jihad are intensifying and threatening the Democracy.

    When Hamas terrorist was joyfully calling his parents and telling them that he murdered many Jews they praised him for that.

    https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1716874448694096095?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1716874448694096095|twgr^2ce529d9c17a2f748f1ee478d4c448d070e75593|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-publishes-audio-of-hamas-terrorist-calling-family-to-brag-of-killing-jews/

    This is who are living in Gaza, they are enemies of Israel and not only Israel, and now they have been given a victory here in the US by the universities failing US miserably.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/israels-netanyahu-says-more-done-181304145.html

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom" data-wf-reset-every="90">Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday "more has to be done" to stop pro-Palestinian protests that have spread across U.S. campuses in recent weeks.

    "What's happening in America's college campuses is horrific," he said in a recorded statement, accusing "antisemitic mobs" of taking over leading universities.

    "It's unconscionable. It has to be stopped. It has to be condemned and condemned unequivocally," he said. "The response of several university presidents was shameful. Now, fortunately, state, local, federal officials, many of them have responded differently but there has to be more. More has to be done."
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What you say doesn't seem at all relevant to my post. From my point of view the deteriorating Israeli public approval around the world is primarily Netanyahu's fault. October 7 galvanized the world behind Israel. Netanyahu destroyed that goodwill by allowing Hamas to advertise death and destruction day after day after day after day in Gaza going on for six months! They have managed to turn the tables of public opinion against Israel. It is Netanyahu's fault that Hamas was so brilliantly successful in their terrorist activities on October 7. It is Netanyahu's fault that the public opinion of Israel around the world has taken a huge slide down. It is Netanyahu's fault that even in the USA the public support for Israel has taken a big hit. Netanyahu is a horrible leader.
     

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