Schumer's speech

I didn't mean that literally. Only that it is apparently not part of him to think that way.

 

I'm afraid you still don't get it, Lerner, even though the current Government have written and spoken exactly what use they intend to make of Hamas' bloody blunder.

 

Netanyahu's government apparently is pushing for mass famine. This would be self defeating if they were successful, I believe. It would be a disaster for the USA to be seen as party to a mass famine genocide in Gaza. I think maybe that Biden has seen this writing on the wall and is pushing back harder to stop it from happening. We can't see what's happening behind the scenes but Biden better be pushing back even harder out of public view. Opening new border crossings into Gaza is a good start but the IDF has to let the aid cross in and stop killing the aid workers!

 

Here's a very sad and concerning story about the mistreatment of detained Palestinians.

Report: Israeli doctor says detained Palestinians are undergoing ‘routine’ amputations for handcuff injuries
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/06/middleeast/doctor-israel-hospital-conditions-intl/index.html

Some of our best allies used to be our enemies, e.g., Germany and Japan. This is because after the war we treated Germany and Japan with respect, empathy, and kindness. I really hope that Israel starts taking this kind of approach with Gaza and West Bank. I don't believe that it's too late. The only real way to eliminate Hamas is to convince the Palestinians that they no longer want the Hamas type policies against Israel. Israel is currently doing the opposite, recruiting the next generation of Hamas.

 

It's all good, Bill. I knew that. Please excuse the failed joke.

 

It's all good, Johann. I assumed that it was probably a joke. I was just in a state of general disbelief in my own ability to communicate simple thoughts since I couldn't seem to get anything across. I know it takes two to communicate but I try really hard to always keep it in top of my mind that I may not have communicated clearly.

 

But they won't. A war is a terrible thing to waste according to people like Minister Smotrich.

 

I'm not familiar with who Minister Smotrich is but assuming he's a right-wing radical in Netanyahu's government, I'll guess that you're saying that they want mass famine in Gaza because they want the land for Israel. I agree with that, that they want to wipe Palestinians off of the land by mass famine and trying to force Egypt to let them into Egypt. The perhaps even sadder part of the story is that I'll guess that Hamas would secretly welcome attempted genocide of the Palestinian people because it would probably make the people support Hamas even stronger!

 

Smotrich is a Kahane-ist. He SAYS SO. And if his words aren't enough, Israel just annexed about 2,000 acres of West Bank for settlement.

 

Thanks for info. The Israel right-wing are bad news, racist a-holes. These guys will have to be removed from the government before progress towards peace can ever be achieved.

Rabbi Meir Kahane and Israel’s far right, explained
https://www.timesofisrael.com/rabbi-meir-kahane-and-israels-far-right-explained/

Note that the Times of Israel has a HIGH reliability rating on MediBiasFactCheck https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/times-of-israel/

 

Gentlemen there is Zoom, if we want to take our debates a step further and a step toward more personal.
I get on Zoom with friends and people who I never met to exchange ideas or lessons.
In this discussion thread I'm biased, I have friends and children of friends and relatives in Israel who are now deployed in Gaza, who are desplaced for many months stuck in alternate temporary lodging, they are also under rocket and drone attacks.
None of them want civilian casualties on any side of the conflict.
Many are displeased with the policies and state of affairs but not all.
The situation over there is dificuilt but hopeful.

Rebbe once told Bibi that he will be the final PM before the King Messiah will come.
There are those who take this words seriously.

https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/lubavitcher-rebbe-after-bibi-comes-the-messiah/

 

Israel Today is a poor not very reliable source. That article is not based in any reality. Since the far right-wing politicians in Israel apparently really believes this kind of nonsense then they are even more dangerous than I feared.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/europe-israel-news/ The extreme bias rating is very problematic.

Of course, if the Messiah does come to Earth in the next few months then you have every right to throw this post in my face.

 

Many in Israel are traditional and religious who give these type of endorsements some weight.

Rabbi David Nachshon, a close friend of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu who witnessed the dialogue, related that the Rebbe was confident that some great good would come out of Netanyahu’s political trials.

“It really pains me, as a friend, as a brother, as a close friend, to see how people constantly spill Netanyahu’s blood,” Rabbi Schneerson confided to Nachshon. “But I have a surprise for you, he’s going to come out of it, and he’ll stand tall, on G-d’s side. He has a promise from the Rebbe, and he’s going to make it through this. We’ve seen it happen up to now, and that’s how it’s going to be now as well. He will make it through this, and he will continue, and I hope he’ll be able to hand his keys over to Moshiach (the Messiah), and we’ll have the complete and true Redemption.”

Rebbe met Natanyahoo in 1984, 88, 90 etc.
Here is a clip from 1988

https://www.chabad.org/therebbe/article_cdo/aid/1394394/jewish/Truth-vs-Darkness-in-the-United-Nations.htm

 

Be sceptical of anyone whose religious views tend to justify his otherwise questionable actions.

 

Israel's politics is influanced and current government relies on religious parties support of the coalition. Bibi enjoys support of the religious parties, even after the new law about draft of yeshiva students.
In Israel there is no separation between the state and religion.
It's in the fabric of the State, Governments fell on such matters as Shabat.

 

Oh, just wait and see what happens when they actually start drafting some of those 60,000 "yeshiva bochers". The Ultra Orthodox establishment is more frightened of seeing their followers actually educated than they are of the Arabs. That includes experiences outside their ghetto communities.

 

The power of the Israeli official rabbinate rests upon three pillars. These are ignorance, superstition, and poverty.

 

That's to harsh. Their world is turning around Torah, Talmud, Halacha observance.
There are ranging from traditional to ultra orthodox.
The current Isr gov is in a mode of political survival. They will not cut the branch they are seating on.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/extremist-haredi-rabbi-army-service-leads-to-secularization-is-worse-than-death/

 

No, it isn't too harsh. It's, if anything, insufficiently harsh because I don't even mention that they and their communities are completely supported by the State. But, Lerner, I will grant that I am not an Israeli, (though presumably eligible for aliyah), and if the secular majority of the Israeli electorate is unwilling to band together to throw these corrupt, self-dealing, slimy, lying tapeworms out of office, it really isn't any business of mine.

 

Here's what I thought was a good CNN article that covers internal Israeli politics pretty well.

Six months into the war in Gaza, Israel has no exit strategy and no real plan for the future
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/gaza-war-no-plan-israel-intl-cmd/index.html

What I took away from the article is that Netanyahu is just trying to politically survive. His set goal of destroying Hamas is extremely popular. The problem is that it is an impossible goal, at least in the way that it's be approached. He instead is just making the next few generations of Palestinians even more radical and determined to destroy Israel. Netanyahu is doomed but whoever, takes over after him is probably just as doomed to failure. I can hardly blame the horrible man for trying to doom millions of human beings to death from famine. That would be a no win situation but he's already put himself in a no win situation anyway.