Schumer's speech

It appears this way but all we get is leaks, we are not actually present in those meetings they hold.
I know from news that out of 20 IDF battalions only 4 remained in Gaza. So scaling down a lot.
Raffa still an open question.
But the hypocrisy when compared to Sudan, Haiti, Syria is crazy.
The aid to Gaza flowing in much higher rate and quantity then before Oct 7th.
There is no famine in Gaza, there are very hard times due to Hamas sacrifice of Gaza civilians.

6 months in to the operation the goal to return hostages not achieved, Hamas weakend, crippled but not destroyed. Not clear who is in charge in the war cabinet.
Some careful optimism in talks so we will see.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-chief-says-withdrawal-of-troops-from-gaza-doesnt-mean-war-is-close-to-end/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/critical-days-israeli-team-gets-green-light-for-next-round-of-gaza-truce-talks/

 

Interview with Avigdor Liberman MK former Defense Minister.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-795381

 

Thank you for demonstrating your awesome power to disbelieve any fact you want to for absolutely no reason except that you don't want to believe it.

 

smh - this DI exchange could outlast the war in Gaza. Well, at least nobody gets killed here....

 

Rwanda marks this week the 30th anniversary of the genocide in which about 800,000 people were massacred, in one of the most brutal ethnic conflicts the world has known in the 20th century. Starting on April 6, 1994 and for a hundred days, Hutu extremists murdered members of the Tutsi minority and moderate members of their people, while the international community struggled to respond and stop the atrocities.
The Tutsi forces that came to power following the genocide are themselves accused of murdering thousands of Hutus in Rwanda. "The international community has let us all down," Rwandan President Paul Kagame said yesterday, addressing leaders from around the world gathered in the capital Kigali for a memorial service for the victims at the memorial where it is estimated that more than a quarter of a million people are buried. "Rwanda was completely shocked by the magnitude of our loss. And the lesson we learned is etched in blood." Among those present at the ceremony was the President of the United States at the time of the genocide, Bill Clinton, who describes these events as the greatest failure of his administration. President Yitzhak Herzog also participated in the event, during which Kagame lit a memorial torch.

 

There are multiple views and critiques. Thats all I pointed to show multiple sides and opinions to the war.
Indeed, I don't side with Jihadist propaganda and incitement. There is no genocide, 6 months of war, 14,000 terrorists dead.
Rwanda marks this week the 30th anniversary of the genocide in which about 800,000 people were massacred in like 100 days.
Syria, and other places that should be addressed urgently in UN, no mention.
AS the Rebbe said, Dark Dark forces are there.

 

That is indeed true. What this does not mean though is that one is entitled to make up their own facts which you frequently do on many topics, especially on this topic.

 

I don't think I make up my own facts, I most of the time in my posts have sources for the facts I post. The accuracy is another issue.
For example, there is in one of LA neighborhood's high % of burglaries. Police department stated that the official % is down in comparison to previous year.
Residents argued its way up.
Residents urged everyone who was a victim of burglary to report, so the Police statists be more factual of the real situation vs underreported incidents.
Different sources, talk radio, reported the issue, including radio new stations. So I may quote as a fact source that I heard vs let's say someone who will quote the official police statistics.
No one is blaming the Police, and actually based on peoples request the number of patrols increased. The more accurate statistics will be published as more victims come forward and report the incidents.

Same in my posts, I usually base the facts on sources, I'm not making them up.
I may have an opinion about the issues.
But we do get stimulating discussions and I do learn from it, I think thanks to Bill I get better sources but like to post m
multiple sources and opinions.

As to Gaza and the war on terror etc., We have been in Afghanistan 20 years, Russians been there for long time, Taliban
is still there. ISIS weakened seriously but regrouping. Israel is forced to change their activity in Gaza.
Most forces puling out of Northern Gaza, Gazans will be able to return to start rebuilding their future and many decisions and activities to rebuild will take place.
Its not over yet, but tactic is changing.

 

Yeah, you do. (Sorry about piling on.)

Which is why I almost never read your posts and respond to them even less frequently. (With this being an exception, of course.)

 

Actually, you guys are making up facts about me , guilty of what you are accusing me.
If you don't agree with the facts I post, it doesn't mean those are made up by me.
When I post and make a point, it's usually to present a different view, angle and encourage stimulating exchange. It's never personal.

 

Dearborn — Video that captured chants of "death to America" and "death to Israel" by some attendees of a Dearborn rally on Friday went viral over the weekend, underscoring tensions over U.S. support for Israel's six-month-long assault against Hamas in Gaza.

The chants were denounced by Dearborn's mayor and other locals as they drew national attention Monday. They were initiated by an unidentified person in the crowd and have since become one focus of videos being shared worldwide and reported by international media

When I watch the Palli demonstrations where they chant "Death to America" " Death to Israel" from Michigan, I have to wonder how they got here and have created "no go zones" within MI. Don't we remember how the PA tried to take over the Lebanon and were expelled by Israel and the Christian Lebanese ; how they tried to take over Jordan and were expelled by Jordan; how no sunie or sheite country wants them. And yet they are here chanting "Death to America" from within our country. What do the US powers that be expect will happen?


How did this happen??? History!!!
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Personal or not is not the issue, nor was it ever brought up as an issue.

As an example, our discussion about the 32,000 deaths in Gaza. You said the number was a big over estimate. I provided strong evidence from NPR, a HIGH reliability source, that it was likely an undercount. I also provided an article from a right-wing pro-Israeli source that didn't have any problem with the overall total death figure but thought that the percentage men in the count was low. You couldn't find any source to support your position, yet you still held that position.

You presenting false facts happens all the time. Usually it is ignored. I actually feel very stupid and foolish for even discussing this right now. It would be much smarter to just generally ignore your posts like Rich. My only self defense is that I never claimed to be as wise as Rich.

 

I didn't present false facts then, and I'm not presenting false facts now.
Since then, we discussed how Hamas Health ministry misrepresents the numbers of civilians vs terrorists killed. Numbers of combatants and terrorists in training are much larger than civilian deaths. Israel went out of ordinary to warn civilians and have them evacuate combat zones. Even now as I type, Hamas representatives are delaying and fully controlling the aid delivery, driving prices up, creating a backlog of aid delivery that was significantly increased by Israel.
I agree that you don't agree with some sources I use, but anti-Israel bias is high, so I don't dismiss the presented facts by pro Israel sites.
I didn't make those up, I made their side heard. You do a good job posting better factual sources.

 

That's not what I see, I think I see Political Jihad at it work, and their plan blueprint that is orchestrated by Muslim Brotherhood gained speed since monstrous attack by Gaza Terrorists with thousands of rockets on Israeli civilians on Israel on Oct 7th. I said Gaza terrorists, as its unofficial Terrorists state, not just Hamas. From their ministry of Education that teaches how to kill Jews to Ministry of Health that turned Hospitals in to Terrorist headquarters, their development ministry that built terror infrastructure with help of Qatar and Iran, Hezbollah. Rocket launchers near of in schools and daycare centers, and residential areas. Not all Gazans are terrorists, but they are hostile enemies, and wish Israel destruction for 100+ years now.

As such I hope there will be a change in leadership over there, Hamas is an idea, just like Jihad can't be fully eradicated.
If I was a democrat, I would still take political action against anti democracy forces such as Muslim Brotherhood and their supported terrorists forces such as Hamas.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jon-stewart-says-arab-states-070856284.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-prepared-strike-nuclear-targets-134752824.html

 

I hope Lerner is right but then there's people like Smotrich annexing West Bank territory and Netanyahu stating categorically that he will not permit an independent Palestinian State.

 

30 years since Oslo accords. I think different approach maybe needed, 2 states appear as impossible task.
Long time ago Shimon Peres had some good ideas and reached agreement with King of Jordan (London Agreement), they called it London Accords but Shamir buried it.
Hussein was bitterly disappointed by Peres' inability to implement the agreement, and consequently disengaged from any further initiative to promote a solution to the Arab–Israeli conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peres%E2%80%93Hussein_London_Agreement#:~:text=The%20London%20Agreement%20between%20King%20Hussein%20of%20Jordan,Lord%20Mishcon%20in%20London%20on%20April%2011%2C%201987.

 

It's impossible because Israel never intended to permit any such thing and has actively occupied a growing fraction of the West Bank with settlements.

 

It is with good reason that no one does. It is because I am not. But in this narrow area, I think I do what is best.