Zimmerman trial - Prosecution finished

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  1. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    The prosecution in the Zimmerman trial has finished their case and the defense is starting up. For those who have been following the trial ....

    Has your opinion on the guilt or innocent of George Zimmerman changed?

    Has there been any evidence or testimony that surprised you?

    What do you think of the judge and her rulings so far?
     
  2. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    This should have never gone to trial. Local law enforcement cleared this poor guy and because of the affirmative action police that have to turn everything into a race issue the local DA's office felt obliged to prosecute Zimmerman. The prosecution's case was awful and it's clear why he wasn't initially charged. Zimmerman will be cleared but his life is now going to be tarnished all because he chose to defend himself when attacked.
     
  3. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Zimmerman says he is innocent so he must be! That he stalked a random stranger, disobeyed emergency dispatcher direction by approaching that person, proceeded to fatally shoot him after an altercation that would have never happened had he not taken the law into his own hands and has been wildly inconsistent with his version of the events of that day is not good enough reason to suspect that it was anything but self defense. No trial necessary. Shame on anyone for not automatically assuming that the shooting was justified. Shame on the entire legal system for setting aside the verdict agreed upon by local law enforcement.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    MC, be calm. Justice will be served. You'll see.
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am sure it will when this is over. The media circus will end and he will walk.
     
  6. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    We'll see an innocent man walk. Local law enforcement didn't want to press charges, they were forced into by a special task forced that was put together due to liberal media pressure. Everything the prosecution has is circumstantial. One of their key witnesses referred to the defendant by a derogatory, racist name. And MC, exactly what are these inconsistent stories from Zimmerman you're referring to? He's been pretty steadfast with his version from what I've seen. Two witnesses for the defense on the other hand, the deceased kid's girlfriend and his brother, have both had inconsistent stories.
    Did Zimmerman use the best judgement that night, probably not, but he didn't operate outside the law.
     
  7. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Wasn't Martin's girlfriend unable to read the statement she gave and was caught in a few "inconsistent" parts of her story? I just loved how they posted a picture of Martin when he was 3-4 years younger and a picture of Zimmerman present day. Talk about the media trying to influence our position.
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I do agree. I feel confident he will walk.
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    And Martin's mother said her son was innocent so it must be!
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Correct, Trayvon Martin did not kill George Zimmerman.
     
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  11. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Martin's mother wasn't a party nor a witness to the incident, making your parallel construction even more bizzare than it is irrelevant. I'd also like to point out that it is you, not I, who has made an assumption about who the "innocent" person is. It does however jar me to think that in the minds of certain people, an armed man can stalk an unarmed kid, confront him, shoot him and yet be SO CLEARLY be innocent of any crime that a trial is unnecessary.
     
  12. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Even if Zimmerman confronted him, no one can prove he began a physical altercation. I am of the belief that Zimmerman did not, and the prosecution has presented no evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. And if Martin did attack him Zimmerman was within his rights to shoot him based on Florida law.
    If even if you think/feel Zimmerman did it, do you really believe the prosecution has proven that beyond a reasonable doubt, because that's the burden they have to meet. They have no witnesses to the events and the people they have brought to the stand with the exception of Zimmerman have not been consistent with their stories.
     
  13. lawrenceq

    lawrenceq Member

    GZ not a cop. He should've stayed his ass in his car.
     
  14. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    A couple things puzzled me about some of the judge's rulings:

    Zimmerman's family was ordered out of the courtroom during the trial, but Martin's were not.

    Zimmerman's school records were allowed in the trial, but Martin's were not.

    Martin's toxicology report showing marijuana usage were not allowed. Marijuana can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst.

    Prosecutor's were allowed to the terms profiled, vigilante, wannabe cop, and say that Zimmerman confronted Martin, all of which are opinion. The defense was not allowed to mention Martin's marijuana usage or Martin's Facebook postings, all of which are facts.



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  15. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    It was also very interesting to learn from the testimony that it was Martin and NOT Zimmerman who actually used racial slurs during the encounter according to the prosecution witness, Rachel Jeantel, who was on the phone with Martin.
     
  16. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    That's because the only other person who witnessed the events in question is dead.
     
  17. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    There is no doubt that GZ "did it"! The question is whether or not "it" was self defense or 2nd degree murder. I think the prosecution has failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that "it" was 2nd degree murder, negligent homicide maybe? I'm surprised they didn't plea it down to Negligent homicide! Unfortunately and very sad that these type of cases have become the medias main source of entertainment.
     
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  18. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Did George Zimmerman volunteered neighborhood watch, so he could join the Law Enforcement later? According to Prince William County, Virginia where I live...he attempted to join before, but was denied.
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I am predicting that Zimmerman will be convicted.
     
  20. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Really? Care to elaborate? Have you been following the trial? I only ask because I can't see how anyone following this could believe that the prosecution has met the burden of proof. It's not going well for them.
     
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